Adjustable Harness - Agir Harpa or KT Winch

[watch]

I'm thinking of replacing the break in my harness with a one piece adjustable for use with twin 12s (previous injury makes a standard OPH difficult)

Does anybody have experience with either the Agir-Brokk Harpa or the Kent Tooling Winch?

The d-ring accessory thing with the Halcyon cinch looks quite good, although I've seen quite a few negative comments about the cinch, putting me off this.

[Dive dog]

They both work very well.
The KT one is GUE compliant though if you are looking to do Fundies in the future.
I believe John sells his winch in pairs.
I actually sell them one at a time as I do not see the need for two.

[Beaker]

Adjustable Harness - Agir Harpa or KT Winch

I've got both and the KT one just doesn't work, tried it with a few different type of webbing but there's just too much friction for it to work (mate has tried them as well and had the same).
You also need to add washers to push the backplate away from the cylinder, if you don't then the cylinder pushes against the webbing trapping it.
Then tried the Harpa loop, left side only, and it works brilliantly with different brands of webbing, really can't fault it.

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[Dive dog]

Really?, I just fed mine on the webbing and they work everytime, no problems.
Different strokes I guess.

[JeremyJ]

I haven't tried the KT version so this isn't really a comparison, but I do have the Harpa (left side only) and can say it's very simple and works well for me.

Highly recommended. Just make sure it fits your backplate slot as the 'standard' slot size seems to have expanded over the past few years. I think Deep Ideas do current and old-timer versions.

[Paulo]

I've got both and the KT one just doesn't work, tried it with a few different type of webbing but there's just too much friction for it to work (mate has tried them as well and had the same).
You also need to add washers to push the backplate away from the cylinder, if you don't then the cylinder pushes against the webbing trapping it.
Then tried the Harpa loop, left side only, and it works brilliantly with different brands of webbing, really can't fault it.

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I agree. I had a KT one for a few dives and had the same problems. I ended up selling it for what I paid for it

[Vanny]

Been using the agir harpa , on both sides, for the past couple months. Seems great does what it's meant to. No experience of the KT kit.

[Jackdiver]

I have the KT winch on a Halcyon backplate.

It works great for me.

[Mikael]

KT winch doesn't work?!

Had it on my red hat back plate well over a year and its working. No need for extra washers on mine, my back plate already has enough of a V shape to stop the tanks trapping webbing

[Major Clanger]

Adjustable Harness - Agir Harpa or KT Winch

Does this harpa thing come on it's own or do you have to buy all the webbing paraphernalia with it as well? Interested in the thing but not 37 odd quid for the rest of it.







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[BTS]

I tried the winch, it doesn't work on the surface of the water, works fine on a bench when the weight of the kit is supported but doesn't help when trying to get back on a RIB in a choppy sea....

[Mark Chase]

I have one home made and one Harper. Both work no problem except they dig in your back a bit when carrying kit on land.

Never seen or tried the KT

I had the Halcyon system before and that was totaly useless.

I use two I had one only (home made) which worked fine but two just makes it very very easy to de kit

Took my Harper ststem on DIRF and they said no. So i had to use a fixed rig and suffer the ignomay of having to have people de kit me after every dive.


ATB

Mark

[Beaker]

Adjustable Harness - Agir Harpa or KT Winch

Does this harpa thing come on it's own or do you have to buy all the webbing paraphernalia with it as well? Interested in the thing but not 37 odd quid for the rest of it.







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That's the only negative, it comes with webbing and can't be bought on its own.
I emailed Agir about it but no reply.....


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[Vanny]

When I bought my agir, deep ideas were quite clear that you should use the supplied webbing , apparently other types won't slide/work properly. That said I'm sure the webbing can't be unique.

[Dive dog]

I use my KT one when standing. Mainly when there are no benches, that way I can get one arm out and swing the tanks round and lower them to the ground.