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    Kent tooling reel and JJ

    Hi Iíve got a 150m Kent tooling reel a a AP valves with crack bottle, Iím normally put it on the frame right hand side Iím sick of it moving around 😂 has anyone found a fox for this it wonít fit in my
    Pocket and Iíd rather keep dsmb and attached to each other

    I was thinking a loop of bungee around frame but I can just see this ending badly in a tangle trying to get the bloody thing off

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    How many 150m dives are you doing??? I put my smb in my pocket with a 60m spool and thatís more than enough unless skipper asks for shoot from wreck for all but deepest. First few mins of ascent you cover a lot of distance i challenge anybody to know you didnít shoot exactly from the wreck

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    Quote Originally Posted by graham_hk View Post
    i challenge anybody to know you didn’t shoot exactly from the wreck
    Probably offset from that the large angle in the line that results if you are somewhat in the lee of the wreck when you fire the blob

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    Reels moving on the frame is annoying alright. I have seen lads with a small bar welded in place. I just clip my reels to my hip D ring
    If my post doesnt have a typo, then I have probably been hacked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WFO View Post
    Probably offset from that the large angle in the line that results if you are somewhat in the lee of the wreck when you fire the blob
    better to be moving in the water in that case

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    Quote Originally Posted by graham_hk View Post
    better to be moving in the water in that case
    I have heard of someone setting length of line to first stop depth. Mary Poppins departure from wreck. Obviously not a big believer in deep stops

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    Quote Originally Posted by graham_hk View Post
    How many 150m dives are you doing??? I put my smb in my pocket with a 60m spool and thatís more than enough unless skipper asks for shoot from wreck for all but deepest. First few mins of ascent you cover a lot of distance i challenge anybody to know you didnít shoot exactly from the wreck
    I'd never do a 150m dive ... too much deco and bailout required is ridiculous. Your views will differ...

    However, we can agree nobody needs a 150m reel for their SMB. For line laying a simpler (less snaggy) reel is needed so the 150' ratchet is an odd idea.

    Whilst you are spool fan, I hate spools and will use ratchet reel with my SMB. I find a reel to be forgiving; if I let go is stays put, I can hang bags off it and still us it, and, if I feel lazy, I have a winch Custom Divers 70m ratchet reel with bungee to keep the crack-bottle SMB attached seems about right.

    If the skipper says SMB from the seabed then that is what I do. Why play smart arse with the guy who is about to rescue you?

    When I send the bag from the seabed I also start my ascent, and use the reel to keep myself moving ('Mary Poppins ascent'). It's a lot of fun, and takes a bit of practice, but avoids a lot of winding and deco. For 60m dive I find the SMB reaches the surface about the time I get to 35m, so by time I've stabilised the CCR I'll be at the first stop.

    Back to the OP, a reel that is adequate for the dives you do is all you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwhitlow View Post
    I'd never do a 150m dive ... too much deco and bailout required is ridiculous. Your views will differ...

    However, we can agree nobody needs a 150m reel for their SMB. For line laying a simpler (less snaggy) reel is needed so the 150' ratchet is an odd idea.

    Whilst you are spool fan, I hate spools and will use ratchet reel with my SMB. I find a reel to be forgiving; if I let go is stays put, I can hang bags off it and still us it, and, if I feel lazy, I have a winch Custom Divers 70m ratchet reel with bungee to keep the crack-bottle SMB attached seems about right.

    If the skipper says SMB from the seabed then that is what I do. Why play smart arse with the guy who is about to rescue you?

    When I send the bag from the seabed I also start my ascent, and use the reel to keep myself moving ('Mary Poppins ascent'). It's a lot of fun, and takes a bit of practice, but avoids a lot of winding and deco. For 60m dive I find the SMB reaches the surface about the time I get to 35m, so by time I've stabilised the CCR I'll be at the first stop.

    Back to the OP, a reel that is adequate for the dives you do is all you need.
    Indeed - no one is suggesting cheating the skipper rather having a sensible chat and build some trust (and not just do what you want and send a mini bag up, 1h after you've left the wreck when its convenient (unless thats mutually agreed to be acceptable).

    Yes our views differ on 150m range diving haha - its alot of deco for not much reward - 25min Run time on Empress of Britain (realistically is 15min on bottom) this summer was ratio deco 15/20:1 . 5 deco and 2 7s on back + 1 3L of O2 and 1 3L of inflation + 2 support divers with extra gas. 6am depart return to port 1am ... long day and lot of gas for 15min on (albiet awesome wreck). Oh and 120m reel

    Most of my super deep stuff is done on a lazy shot as it just keeps everyone together so no need to routinely shoot from depth. But on that dive (don't tell GI3) - I had an SMB on reel on the right stand of JJ - flopping around, but when you've got 5 deco stages, lights, camera and scooter - doesn't seem to matter too much

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    Nope i dont need a 150m, problem solved I have just ordered the 75m narrow composite (kent tooling) as i really like the KT reel, if anyone wants to buy a 150m one full SS let me know
    Hey mister grumpy gills Life's full of little spills Don't throw your fins up in disgust Oh what's the use of floatin' there Not going anywhere? Swish your tail And dive on in And trust... That...if...you Just keep swimming Just keep swimming Life isn't all that grim!

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    Quote Originally Posted by leeiom View Post
    Nope i dont need a 150m, problem solved I have just ordered the 75m narrow composite (kent tooling) as i really like the KT reel, if anyone wants to buy a 150m one full SS let me know
    Don't think you'll regret that at all , the SS ones are so negatively buoyant it's loads nicer with the plastic backed one just from not having the extra litre of buoyancy gas sloshing about


 
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