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    [QUOTE=Ian@1904;481889

    The red logbooks are pretty useful if a bit old school. It makes sense to keep a log of your dives, after twenty years and hundreds of dives I still write stuff up in my logbook. [/QUOTE]

    This ^

    I massively regret not logging my dives after about 150 - I thought it was a bit spoddy to be honest - but a few years later a mate got to some significant big number (4000 dives or something) and I realised I had no idea how many I had done so I started logging them again but couldn't reconstruct the "lost" dives. So even now I have 700 and something logged dives plus several hundred from the "gap" so I have probably passed 1000 but will never know.

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    Don't overlook resources that seem to be advanced either. This online "revision" guide is aimed at instructor candidates but offers a quick overview of what you need to know.

    https://www.idc-guide.com/dive-theory/

    Lot of good data there.
    We give £350m a week to the EU. Let's give it to Dido Harding instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulStevo View Post
    Morning all ,
    Just started my scuba journey and as well as joining BSAC and local club im undertaking Ocean Diver Course.
    Was looking at options and need some calrification on what to purchase.
    E learning option is £65 which is what im edging towards ,however it recommends purchasing other things like Dive Profile Red Logbook and BSAC Nitrox Decompression Tables.
    Do i need these added items to complete course . Also im planning on taking some classroom modules as well ran by the club ive joined. Im presuming i can take my Macbook with me to consult diving manual or other things materials the Ocean Diver e learning package gives me,or is it wise to purchase some hard copies of Diving Manual and Tables.
    Cheers Paul
    Hi Paul,

    Welcome to BSAC and the adventure that awaits.

    The Red Logbook is free format, allowing you to tailor what you record to you needs as youíre skill set develops and what you end up doing when diving.

    Others have covered the nuances of e-learning and face-2-face, my preference is face-2-face, but then Iím old school.

    If anything doesnít make sense ask one of the instructors in you club to explain it, or drop me a PM on here.

    When youíve got your Ocean Diver you have a choice getting to Sports Diver (SD):
    1. do Advanced Ocean Diver (gives 30m and DSMB) then the SD top-up, or
    2. go straight into the full SD course.
    Both routes cost the same, the AOD opens up more diving opportunities on you way to SD.

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    Our club has sets of tables to loan out to OD trainees. As has been mentioned above, they are useful training aids but not really applicable in the real world. When they first came out, dive computers were very expensive but you now pay less for one than I did for my first back in 1985 and that's not including any inflation!

    I started doing the theory lectures online at the start of the Covid lockdown and have continued doing them that way since we don't have a dedicated room we can use as a classroom and it saves the hassle of organising various different locations. This works well in that the students can ask questions and the lecturer can add material which is appropriate to the branch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward3c View Post
    When you’ve got your Ocean Diver you have a choice getting to Sports Diver (SD):
    1. do Advanced Ocean Diver (gives 30m and DSMB) then the SD top-up, or
    2. go straight into the full SD course.
    Both routes cost the same, the AOD opens up more diving opportunities on you way to SD.
    I was a real sceptic about the AOD but having just done the entire course comfortably within a week for a diver who had masses of dives (70-plus) but had never managed to get her arse into gear to do SD I am a convert. It is a real qualification which - as Edward says - opens up a bunch more diving but is also a useful waypoint on the way to SD that shows the trainee that they are actually achieving something and you can then do the rest of the SD stuff on more interesting dives as and when the opportunity arises.

    It is also much more user-friendly as you can easily fit it into a weeks diving trip and they get something concrete at the end not a few signatures in a QRB and a "next time you need to do..." REAP debrief.

    Not sure how it works with Q cards - you only get one code with the SD Training Pack so do they have to pay for the SD card when they finally get that having used the code for the AOD card?
    Last edited by Energy58; 24-09-2022 at 04:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Energy58 View Post
    Not sure how it works with Q cards - you only get one code with the SD Training Pack so do they have to pay for the SD card when they finally get that having used the code for the AOD card?
    There should be a code with the "Advanced Ocean Diver (AOD) Student Guide with QRB" pack, the "Advanced Ocean Diver to Sports Diver course materials" pack has its own code.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward3c View Post
    There should be a code with the "Advanced Ocean Diver (AOD) Student Guide with QRB" pack, the "Advanced Ocean Diver to Sports Diver course materials" pack has its own code.
    Isn't the AOD stuff download only? I used a SD crossover pack and the downloaded sign off thingy so she now has a SD pack with no actual code

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    Quote Originally Posted by Energy58 View Post
    Isn't the AOD stuff download only? I used a SD crossover pack and the downloaded sign off thingy so she now has a SD pack with no actual code
    There in lies the problem. You used the Sports Diver Crossover Pack which is to take another agency Diver from Open Water (or equivalent) to SD. The AOD is for OD or other agency Open Water (or equivalent) to AOD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward3c View Post
    There in lies the problem. You used the Sports Diver Crossover Pack which is to take another agency Diver from Open Water (or equivalent) to SD. The AOD is for OD or other agency Open Water (or equivalent) to AOD.
    If the student was an Open Water Diver you would use the SD cross over pack. If they needed the 30 meter qualification for a holiday and the branch did not have time to complete the full SD course what should they have done?

    Graham

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    Quote Originally Posted by bottle maker View Post
    If the student was an Open Water Diver you would use the SD cross over pack. If they needed the 30 meter qualification for a holiday and the branch did not have time to complete the full SD course what should they have done?

    Graham
    "If you are an already qualified BSAC Ocean Diver (or other agency equivalent) and would like to extend your diving range progressively, then Advanced Ocean Diver is for you." on the AOD page.


 
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