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    On the subject of phones and radios being distracting, my personal experience is contrary to that.

    When I first started driving heavy wagons in the mid/late 1980's, CB radio was very popular, due in part to the film "Convoy". In truth, we all had them and it was a fun time to drive a wagon as we had lots of laughs over the airwaves, but not once do I recall my attention being compromised due to having a conversation with another driver.

    For some reason CB fell out of favour and hardly anyone uses it these days, and most drivers cite mobile phones as causing its demise. Again, I spend time on hands-free phone calls most days and I honestly don't believe that it impacts my driving abilities. Being in heavy haulage I quite often have the company of an escort van if I'm carrying an abnormal load and I'm in constant communication with the driver via the CB or a two-way radio, none of which strangely are illegal, and again I don't wander all over the road or sit in the middle lane of an otherwise empty motorway or drive for miles with my indicators flashing...

    I could, on the other hand, tell many tales of police cars being driven incredibly badly, to the point where I've gained their attention by copious use of my loud air horns followed by gesticulating at them to pull over. It's quite interesting to pull up behind a police car in a crowded motorway service area and proceed to tear a strip off the "driver", before getting his collar number and reporting him for driving without due care and attention. Sadly it's pointless attempting to complain about them because they close ranks and put up brick walls to keep you out, but it makes them realise that they can't simply wander along doing what they want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange One. View Post
    On the subject of phones and radios being distracting, my personal experience is contrary to that.

    When I first started driving heavy wagons in the mid/late 1980's, CB radio was very popular, due in part to the film "Convoy". In truth, we all had them and it was a fun time to drive a wagon as we had lots of laughs over the airwaves, but not once do I recall my attention being compromised due to having a conversation with another driver.

    For some reason CB fell out of favour and hardly anyone uses it these days, and most drivers cite mobile phones as causing its demise. Again, I spend time on hands-free phone calls most days and I honestly don't believe that it impacts my driving abilities. Being in heavy haulage I quite often have the company of an escort van if I'm carrying an abnormal load and I'm in constant communication with the driver via the CB or a two-way radio, none of which strangely are illegal, and again I don't wander all over the road or sit in the middle lane of an otherwise empty motorway or drive for miles with my indicators flashing...

    I could, on the other hand, tell many tales of police cars being driven incredibly badly, to the point where I've gained their attention by copious use of my loud air horns followed by gesticulating at them to pull over. It's quite interesting to pull up behind a police car in a crowded motorway service area and proceed to tear a strip off the "driver", before getting his collar number and reporting him for driving without due care and attention. Sadly it's pointless attempting to complain about them because they close ranks and put up brick walls to keep you out, but it makes them realise that they can't simply wander along doing what they want to.
    I think you're demonstrating that you don't believe that hands free phone use impacts your driving abilities because you've never had a problem. That is not the same as not being distracted. You've just got away with it. I'm sure pretty much every driver has thought the same. Even those drivers right up to the point they've slammed into stationary vehicles. Perhaps you should submit yourself to one of the driving simulator test for such things to demonstrate and prove to other that you're an outlier when it comes to not being distracted by a phone conversation while driving.
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    I've had a hands-free phone for over 30 years. However, if I'm on the phone and I need to concentrate on particular traffic condiditions, I will always tell the person I'm speaking with that I must stop for a short while I negotiate things like overtaking. Concentrating on driving always takes priority over having a conversation. It's the same if I'm talking to someone in the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adrian View Post
    I think you're demonstrating that you don't believe that hands free phone use impacts your driving abilities because you've never had a problem.
    Not quite.

    What I said was "my personal experience is contrary to that".

    Put simply it means that after 30 years of driving HGV's, often carrying very big and heavy abnormal loads, and well over 1.5 million (and documented) miles without incident, I reckon I've done somewhat more than "...just got away with it."

    If you want to think that I'm distracted by a phone call, please do so, but I have NEVER come anywhere remotely close to slamming into a stationary vehicle and in truth I do take a lot of offence at being likened to that kind of idiot. Phone calls might distract me, but the evidence would suggest otherwise.

    FWIW, I view driving a heavy lorry as a privilege and not a right, and I accept all the responsibilities that go with that privilege and I take them very seriously. There are many people on the road who haven't the barest idea how to drive a motor vehicle safely and with any degree of competence, but I'm not one of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange One. View Post
    Not quite.

    What I said was "my personal experience is contrary to that".

    Put simply it means that after 30 years of driving HGV's, often carrying very big and heavy abnormal loads, and well over 1.5 million (and documented) miles without incident, I reckon I've done somewhat more than "...just got away with it."

    If you want to think that I'm distracted by a phone call, please do so, but I have NEVER come anywhere remotely close to slamming into a stationary vehicle and in truth I do take a lot of offence at being likened to that kind of idiot. Phone calls might distract me, but the evidence would suggest otherwise.

    FWIW, I view driving a heavy lorry as a privilege and not a right, and I accept all the responsibilities that go with that privilege and I take them very seriously. There are many people on the road who haven't the barest idea how to drive a motor vehicle safely and with any degree of competence, but I'm not one of them.
    Personal experience is not a great measure*. A single datum. You cannot be aware of things you we're not aware of because you were not applying 100% of your senses on the primary task - driving. You can't know what you didn't notice. It's not about you not having an accident, but not knowing you didn't have one despite you not noticing. Feel free to be offended if you wish. Personally I'd prefer you to make a step to mitigate your and others risks a bit further than you do, by not having phone calls while driving.

    It is good that you accept your responsibilities and take them seriously. I would agree with you that there are those who should not be driving.

    *Prior to 9/11, the worst airline disaster was caused by one of the airline's most experienced pilots. Many miles flown etc. It happened on the ground.
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