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    Dry suits

    Iím in the market for a new suit. So what to get?

    Otter appear to have lost the plot. Shit neoprene seals that are perished in less than a year, shoddy work, socks that leak, inability to read an order form and make the suit as requested. Iíve completely lost faith in them which is a shame as they were the go to suit for many years and always provided a good service.

    Santi are on a forever waiting list and wonít fit Kubi rings to their suits and are exorbitantly priced.

    So who can I speak to that are still making good suits and providing a good service? Oíthree?

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    I've always had great service from o3 and have had a couple of suits from them. I do find them not very flexible suits but practically indestructible (2-100). Anyone that I know who dives them also have been very impressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BcDiver View Post
    I've always had great service from o3 and have had a couple of suits from them. I do find them not very flexible suits but practically indestructible (2-100). Anyone that I know who dives them also have been very impressed.
    Always been happy with mine too (2-100). They do advertise a suit with more flexibility (MSF500) but I have no idea what its like - I suspect that the "no such thing as a free lunch" factor will bite somewhere in the durability/flexibility trade off.

    Mate of mine has a new, very expensive, Otter suit which leaks very heavily through one foot after only a couple of dozen dives (he is currently buying shares in black witch pending sending it back after the summer is over) but another buddy is super happy with hers bought about a year ago. Santi seems to take an absolute age for anything so you have to have a spare suit and Hammond seem to be overwhelmed with orders: several people I know have missed promised delivery dates by several weeks recently.

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    Don't know what DUI are like now but mine has lasted 12 years and not showing signs of giving up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeF View Post
    I’m in the market for a new suit. So what to get?

    Otter appear to have lost the plot. Shit neoprene seals that are perished in less than a year, shoddy work, socks that leak, inability to read an order form and make the suit as requested. I’ve completely lost faith in them which is a shame as they were the go to suit for many years and always provided a good service.

    Santi are on a forever waiting list and won’t fit Kubi rings to their suits and are exorbitantly priced.
    Re Santi, have you checked recently? I'd heard it was getting better. As for the price, if you buy a Rolls Royce, you don't expect it to be cheap. Santi market themselves as a premium brand, so... As for the Kubi rings, their own ring system is pretty damn good, so why would they sell someone else's? I think they can fit them locally if you ask (speak to Will at Divemaster Scuba Notts).

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeF View Post
    So who can I speak to that are still making good suits and providing a good service? O’three?
    O'Three and Fourth Element I'd suggest are worth a look. That UK support is nice.
    The views expressed are my own, worth what you've paid for them, are not on behalf of anyone else and not those of any company I work for etc.

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    My DUI has started to leak and gone a bit tight. But otherwise a great suit but last I checked they make Santi look cheap. I specced up my cf200 and itís now £3800 for a standard size large! Theyíre clearly on drugs

    I have a Santi as well but itís coming to end of life as Iím at the chasing leaks stage. When I got it they were not much more than grand, now itís well over 2. I could live with that but if Iím buying a RR and want it in pink Iím pretty sure RR would paint it pink. Lexus markets itself as a premium brand but itís still a ToyotaÖIíve done more repairs to my Santi suit than any other suit Iíve ever owned.

    The only suits Iíve had that never leaked were an old ND 5mm compressed and an othree Ri2-100. The last ri2-100 i had was a bit stiff compared to a cf200. And the ND had to be folded with a cricket bat.

    The othree 9090 suit is nice but fragile.

    I was going to just order an otter but I donít know if they have been having temporary difficulties and are now sorted or just donít care anymore. Last time I called in Iíd driven from Aberdeen as I needed to get a suit fixed in a hurry, I was the only customer and left feeling like I was interrupting something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeF View Post
    My DUI has started to leak and gone a bit tight. But otherwise a great suit but last I checked they make Santi look cheap. I specced up my cf200 and it’s now £3800 for a standard size large! They’re clearly on drugs
    Jesus I think I'll be taking a bit more care of mine then.

    Otter wasn't great pre-covid, it's changed a lot since John Womack's days. I remember ordering my first Brittanic and walking out the shop with a box of stuff John gave me that he wouldn't take a "no" for and he still knocked about 25% off the RRP. It's a shame, like you say I would just have ordered a suit without even thinking about it but not now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeF View Post
    My DUI has started to leak and gone a bit tight. But otherwise a great suit but last I checked they make Santi look cheap. I specced up my cf200 and itís now £3800 for a standard size large! Theyíre clearly on drugs.
    Where do people get their cf200x repaired nowadays? Was looking at getting the knife pocket replaced with a bellows pocket.

    Mine went a bit tight. Too many pies for me. Loosing 15kg helped.

    At that price it has to last for the rest of my life.

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    I had a cf200x a few years ago and it was a great suit, like wearing a tracksuit it was so comfortable and flexible but eventually the neoprene went porous and leaked like a sieve. Always preferred neoprene over membrane for the added heat. Price of all suits has gotten ridiculous when you count add ons.

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    Predator all the way. But to get the best out of a custom fit by Dennis probably worth a visit in person


 
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