You just don't get to see it because you dont ask and its not in the suppliers or the (LDS) interest to tell you.
That way it allows both manufacturers and retailers to "palm off" old seals and soft goods such as gaskets and polyurethane HP seats with only a short shelf life left to the public in those service kits you do manage to get under the counter. Hence my request for them to play fair and disclose the cure date.
By Apex Marine et al not doing this it covers two extra "requirements" from both the manufacturer/supplier and the retailer that is against the interests of the self service diver. First it makes the end user service kits under achieve maximum potential performance and second it gets rid of any old stock lying around.
Now please realize that despite what those "in the trade" posers tell you old seals and polymers can be up to 10 years old by the time you get them "New"
Look I know Apeks Marine as others dont like this information being made public but more will follow and maybe more than they would like if i'm pushed to disclose.
But the information of soft goods regardless of material Nitrile Viton FKM or even Apex Marine's EPDM all have a recognised maximum shelf life.
When Apex Marine but 0-rings they buy in bulk and the supplier supplies with the goods a cure date (DOM) a batch numbers and a compound number. This information is recorded.
Our issue as divers is that we dont get palmed off with 10 year old "washers" when we finally do get spares kits off the shelf from our local dive shops and we get them at a transparant recognized retail re sale retail price.
Now I am aware of the alternative fight back thats being put in place to counteract divers getting spares more on that later.
But the bottom line is everything soft and rubbery fails over time, knowing how old it is before you buy it is key. Hope that answered your question
If you have more questions dont hesitate to ask its a free forum and information on this aspect of parts supply needs to be shared.
Last edited by iain/hsm; 22-03-2021 at 07:58 PM.
But my first question to you is this.
Would you like to talk about your "sponsorship" with Apeks Marine a little more out in Mexico just as long as you don't come across as a bit shady and lose credibility that is.
Then I will address every specific you could ever make. Something to think about.
Great. Does he have the DFx files, I can give him an application. Publish them on the forum Qanon, I cant.
And if they dont like this they will hate what's coming. All we are asking is Spares Kits in the UK at a fair and Punlished Retail Price
However in other news worse is yet to come.
Now with Apeks Marine the latest hype to kill off the spares kits for the UK market is they will or are already offering now "Free Servicing"
Yes drop your Apeks Marine regulator into a participating UK Retail Slatwall LDS once a year and get free servicing.
What's the catch I hear you say:
Well only the parts are free you still pay for all the labour, but without someone publishing the parts price list in the first place
how do you know its a fair price and not another LDS UK dive shop rip off.
Besides you also have to have the regulator from new and service it once a year, Bless.