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    Quote Originally Posted by simon mitchell View Post

    And another customer on rebreatherworld:

    Simon M
    You must have some special skills here Simon. Have you thought about the Adult Librarian Services. Good job and you can spend all
    day digging up posts made 10 years ago from folk who are no longer with us ............figuratively speaking.

    Now it takes a special skill to reference a post on rebreather world these days
    When I try I dont get much at all.

    http://www.rebreatherworld.com/forums.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by iain/hsm View Post
    You must have some special skills here Simon. Have you thought about the Adult Librarian Services. Good job and you can spend all
    day digging up posts made 10 years ago from folk who are no longer with us ............figuratively speaking.

    Now it takes a special skill to reference a post on rebreather world these days
    When I try I dont get much at all.

    http://www.rebreatherworld.com/forums.php
    Yes I seem to have broken burger world with my last link to the infamous thread with the ginger twat showing how smart he thinks he is .

    I'm sure some of us have a copys of the relevant posts .

    Back in the day the ginger twat had fast fingers
    And would often try to change his original post .
    Once he had got he's foot out of his mouth .

    He's been trying clean his web history for some years now.

    He should really just stick with face f#ck
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    Quote Originally Posted by gobfish1 View Post
    Yes I seem to have broken burger world with my last link to the infamous thread
    I'm sure some of us have a copys of the relevant posts .
    And here was me thinking it was Peter Sotis himself that did it for that three dive stunt dive/ training dive / anchor recovery that killed that shark film fella.
    As well as selling military listed items to Libya when told not to, Oh and being accused by his business partner of selling uncertified rebreather cylinders from China.


    Quote Originally Posted by gobfish1 View Post
    He's been trying clean his web history for some years now.
    He should really just stick with face xxxx.
    I dont have that problem I just make a reply to a Simon Mitchell post and he gets the post and my reply cleaned up for me as though it never happened.
    Especially on Scubaboard. I now dont even have to ask it's that good a librarian service. Like having my own secretary........only prettier.
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    Sotis timing was v good then . As it went down the day after I posted the link. And he's been up shit creak for a long time now.
    Must be just a coincidence.
    And my tin hat is playing me up .

    You take care . M8

    Ps
    Dont worry about on Scubaboard it's full of them yanks you would be better of head butting a wall than entering in to a debate with them .
    Eney how come Easter it will be pretty quiet over the pond and on scubaland
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    Hi Iain,

    I have no idea what kompromat OSEL have on you, but it must be spectacular given your enthusiasm for attaching your star to their sputtering rocket. In this latest example you obliquely defend Brad Horn's claim that OSEL have never had any quality assurance problems with products released to their customers, when (as you can see) there are many people on this thread who know that to be unequivocally false. Not to mention problems with the promised products that were never released to customers, like the iCCR and the bailout rebreather you were touting in an earlier post.

    Regarding obtaining material from RBW, given Brad's demonstrated penchant for revising history, I have had the prescience to keep copies of many relevant posts related to debates I have been involved in with OSEL. They come in handy, in cases like this.

    Quote Originally Posted by iain/hsm View Post
    I dont have that problem I just make a reply to a Simon Mitchell post and he gets the post and my reply cleaned up for me as though it never happened. Especially on Scubaboard. I now dont even have to ask it's that good a librarian service. Like having my own secretary........only prettier.
    Yes, its a relief that there are a tiny number of places where deception and lies remain poorly tolerated. But don't worry; there are still plenty of places on the internet where you can puff your chest out and say anything you like.

    Finally, its fairly rich for you to complain about things being more than 10 years old, when virtually all the corporate 'knowledge' you spruik on these forums is way older than that.

    Simon M
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Evans View Post
    How are TecnipFMC (The company has changed a bit its been so long) and Statoil doing with your "Hugely over complicated Bail out system" oh yeah.........
    Yes there were some interesting choices made there weren’t there… I guess you could call a ship over-complicated when it carries the bailout gas http://www.energy-oil-gas.com/2012/02/29/unique-system/
    Even more expensive when they built a ship around utilising said fully certified at that time primary rebreather life support system https://www.evolen.org/_upload/resso...arctic_jah.pdf

    Especially considering OSEL owned and continue to own all the IP and tooling for the complete rebreather system inclusive of the SparkADA code! Supplied COTS with valid PO: albeit with solid-state O2 sensors now, OSELs progressive Oxygen valve and 350m CE/NORSOK certification if required.

    Quote Originally Posted by WFO View Post
    End tidal CO2 monitoring... ffs... here we go again.
    Indeed https://www.facebook.com/OpenSafetyE...3144424405002/ would be great to see other rebreather manufacturers developing their own.
    Especially with how inaccurate tempstiks and inhale CO2 monitoring are; as evidenced by the dearth of their testing.

    Quote Originally Posted by bottle maker View Post
    I have never seen an Apoc being dived.
    No worries. You will. So nice diving such a light unit with its market lowest WOB. Proven to be safe enough to be shipped direct to customers doors fully diveable out of the box, just add gas and get trained.

    Quote Originally Posted by bottle maker View Post
    I do remember that the prototype I saw at the show was going to a fully controlled unit. This has never materialised.
    Kinda correct. That was likely one of this batch of units https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=129100310476080

    Per that demo Alex makes it quite clear that the fully controlled unit was for military use only. That specific military eCCR he refers to is this one https://www.facebook.com/OpenSafetyE...type=3&theater which is very nice to dive.
    The sports units for recreational use OSEL offer have always been mCCR units at heart, even if O2 only. The iCCR is at its core an mCCR with intervention electronics overlaid.

    Quote Originally Posted by bottle maker View Post
    Until a working fully controlled CCR capable of diving 100 meters plus is available for anybody with £10,000 to spend, then you and Alex have minimal credibility.
    Amusing. Plenty of credibility amongst the right players with OSELs Commercial and Military lines that are designed to be safely dived to 350m.
    On the Recreational side no one is forcing anyone to dive an OSEL unit. But for those that do their research and compare the testing and systems engineering behind OSELs units compared to any competition the contrast is vast http://www.deeplife.co.uk/or_fmeca.php and http://www.deeplife.co.uk/or_dv.php

    OSEL even sell their blank military eCCR head to anyone whom wants one to add to an Apoc. With at least a couple in active use as DIY eCCRs using off the self controllers. Will full ongoing support for the CCR provided by OSEL up to the 'e' bit, at that point you're on your own.

    Quote Originally Posted by simon mitchell View Post
    I had a problem where the o-ring sealing the O2 injector failed on a dive, meaning that I had to feather the O2 for the rest of the dive. This happened right at the end of my bottom time and was more of an inconvenience than anything. It turned out the o-ring was shredded, not just nicked or deformed, which surprised me a little, anyway I changed it and kept diving.
    On the next dive, the O2 started free-flowing shortly after I arrived at the max depth, around 65m! This was slightly more of an inconvenience but still easy enough to solve by feathering the cylinder off and on.
    The free flow did not go away but I put up with it for a couple of dives feathering the oxygen (flame all you like, the problem was manageable). I dived like that for two more dives and then noticed on the third the free flow was gone. Happy days!
    The Apoc performed well for the rest of the trip and I sent the injector away when I got home to Australia at the end of August. It's on it's way back now. The pictures of the injector I have seen show blackening, allegedly from an O2 fire from "dirty" oxygen, a problem that no-one else of the boat was afflicted with, but even if they were, it did not stop them diving and, hey, I was in Thailand, it's not like I get to choose where to get the oxygen from. There was also apparently corrosion from saltwater incursion. Again, my fault apparently and nothing to do with the shredded o-ring.
    An interesting one to bring up Simon. Especially noting your supposed - in all bar the Wes Skiles instance at least - support of the use of checklists pre-dive.
    You’d think that when a rebreather no matter the make, did something unexpected on a dive, one would fully investigate why before diving it again. There is certainly no way that this unit passed its pre-diving oxygen flow checks after that first dive…. The o-ring was shredded because it had been blown out! Which requires well in-excess of 300bar! Yes, like the Mk15 series and original KISS, the Apoc's oxygen injector can take the full HP oxygen if the seat fails. See my above point about customers force diving units when they shouldn’t!

    But in this case this same customer sent their burnt out 1st stage/injector back not once but twice from two separate overseas dive trips for free warranty repair by OSEL! Pics and report were published in OSELs Newsletter to all customers. Good thing OSEL put the Apollo A320 1st stage through such rigorous testing at BAM.de, use very high quality inflammable materials in the oxygen system and use only Gleitmo 599 https://www.opensafety.eu/datasheets...(overseas).pdf as not even OSELs new progressive oxygen valve would have saved that divers unit from the outcome of a hydrocarbon contaminated oxygen fill. Which was the only way DL at OSELs request could recreate this specific and individual issue as reported.
    No other customer has recreated this issue since, thankfully.

    Quote Originally Posted by simon mitchell View Post
    Brad, it seems my record of your company's quality control issues is more complete than yours. I would have thought an accurate record of these issues would be a pre-requisite for all those certifications you frequently boast about.
    Feel free to re-read the various newsletters OSEL have published Simon and consider how much is disclosed… Then compare that with your preferred rebreather!
    Pretty sure I covered most of the more interesting post production issues here https://www.thediveforum.com/showthr...l=1#post447655 so you might need to reread your RBW collection as you missed a few.

    Of note EVERY single issue reported to OSEL is logged and disclosed to the auditors as a matter of course during every relevant certification audit. There is at least one a year for something. I’d think this is unique in the diving industry but them OSELs family of rebreathers are also the only rebreathers on the market with Functional Safety certification to 61508 with high SIL so the fact that no-one else bothers to report/track/fix issues is kind of irrelevant. After all, while I know you don't have to, potential customers diving other makes of rebreather seem quite happy to continue to pay other rebreather manufacturers through the nose multiple times to fix their design and QA issues

    What you appear struggling to fathom Simone may be OSEL sticking their hand up and somewhat uniquely saying, yes it happened, yes OSEL fixed it at OSELs cost….
    Contrast that to continuing claims made by others about their cracked cases, cracked handsets, corroded wiring, MAVs that fall off or stick, units that turn off when you roll backwards off a RHIB and BOVs that stick etc etc On return to their respective manufacturer insult is added to injury by having to pay for these supposed repairs…

    Heck Simon you have me thinking of issues now and that makes me remember that you're still ignorant of the WOB of your own rebreathers BOV in OC and CC modes. And don't know why the unit you dive still does not come with a $20 gag strap as standard?

    Quote Originally Posted by simon mitchell View Post
    Not to mention problems with the promised products that were never released to customers, like the iCCR and the bailout rebreather you were touting in an earlier post.
    Come again Simon. What problems? Oh yes, sorry, a number of divers force dived another brand of sports rebreather and shifted the functional safety requirement for the auto-bailout function of the iCCR to ‘always require’ from ‘attempt to’. Cost OSEL a lot of business that, as it continues to do you but I would hardly call it a problem with the rebreather itself. Delays since then are certainly a problem but it is not as if you can buy a rebreather with either the same functionality as the iCCR or the same breathing performance as any OSEL unit from any other manufacturer.

    BTW it appears that UMG didn’t brief you very well for your work with them as OSELs commercial rebreather is a primary life support system fully CE certified for commercial use and happily dived by the customer with orders placed for a full production run.

    While Simon is a lot more aware from a very very interesting perspective, of this project than he is letting on, others might be interested in educating themselves a little more per page 125 http://www.edtc.org/MINUTES/Minutes%...%20Meeting.pdf

    Quote Originally Posted by TECHNIP
    Status pr date 11.10.2012
    Technip No conducting diving at NYD
    Number of divers 51
    Hours in water 74
    Number of dives 94
    Unique manufacture new batch for CE certification and operational trials on Skandi Arctic
    CE certification with SGS to 400 msw
    Fathom feed study for interface to Skandi Arctic
    Technip UK have ordered 14 Units, first 7 for operational trials planned for 1Q 2013
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad_Horn View Post
    Yes there were some interesting choices made there weren’t there… I guess you could call a ship over-complicated when it carries the bailout gas http://www.energy-oil-gas.com/2012/02/29/unique-system/
    Even more expensive when they built a ship around utilising said fully certified at that time primary rebreather life support system https://www.evolen.org/_upload/resso...arctic_jah.pdf

    Especially considering OSEL owned and continue to own all the IP and tooling for the complete rebreather system inclusive of the SparkADA code! Supplied COTS with valid PO: albeit with solid-state O2 sensors now, OSELs progressive Oxygen valve and 350m CE/NORSOK certification if required.


    Indeed https://www.facebook.com/OpenSafetyE...3144424405002/ would be great to see other rebreather manufacturers developing their own.
    Especially with how inaccurate tempstiks and inhale CO2 monitoring are; as evidenced by the dearth of their testing.


    No worries. You will. So nice diving such a light unit with its market lowest WOB. Proven to be safe enough to be shipped direct to customers doors fully diveable out of the box, just add gas and get trained.


    Kinda correct. That was likely one of this batch of units https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=129100310476080

    Per that demo Alex makes it quite clear that the fully controlled unit was for military use only. That specific military eCCR he refers to is this one https://www.facebook.com/OpenSafetyE...type=3&theater which is very nice to dive.
    The sports units for recreational use OSEL offer have always been mCCR units at heart, even if O2 only. The iCCR is at its core an mCCR with intervention electronics overlaid.


    Amusing. Plenty of credibility amongst the right players with OSELs Commercial and Military lines that are designed to be safely dived to 350m.
    On the Recreational side no one is forcing anyone to dive an OSEL unit. But for those that do their research and compare the testing and systems engineering behind OSELs units compared to any competition the contrast is vast http://www.deeplife.co.uk/or_fmeca.php and http://www.deeplife.co.uk/or_dv.php

    OSEL even sell their blank military eCCR head to anyone whom wants one to add to an Apoc. With at least a couple in active use as DIY eCCRs using off the self controllers. Will full ongoing support for the CCR provided by OSEL up to the 'e' bit, at that point you're on your own.


    An interesting one to bring up Simon. Especially noting your supposed - in all bar the Wes Skiles instance at least - support of the use of checklists pre-dive.
    You’d think that when a rebreather no matter the make, did something unexpected on a dive, one would fully investigate why before diving it again. There is certainly no way that this unit passed its pre-diving oxygen flow checks after that first dive…. The o-ring was shredded because it had been blown out! Which requires well in-excess of 300bar! Yes, like the Mk15 series and original KISS, the Apoc's oxygen injector can take the full HP oxygen if the seat fails. See my above point about customers force diving units when they shouldn’t!

    But in this case this same customer sent their burnt out 1st stage/injector back not once but twice from two separate overseas dive trips for free warranty repair by OSEL! Pics and report were published in OSELs Newsletter to all customers. Good thing OSEL put the Apollo A320 1st stage through such rigorous testing at BAM.de, use very high quality inflammable materials in the oxygen system and use only Gleitmo 599 https://www.opensafety.eu/datasheets...(overseas).pdf as not even OSELs new progressive oxygen valve would have saved that divers unit from the outcome of a hydrocarbon contaminated oxygen fill. Which was the only way DL at OSELs request could recreate this specific and individual issue as reported.
    No other customer has recreated this issue since, thankfully.


    Feel free to re-read the various newsletters OSEL have published Simon and consider how much is disclosed… Then compare that with your preferred rebreather!
    Pretty sure I covered most of the more interesting post production issues here https://www.thediveforum.com/showthr...l=1#post447655 so you might need to reread your RBW collection as you missed a few.

    Of note EVERY single issue reported to OSEL is logged and disclosed to the auditors as a matter of course during every relevant certification audit. There is at least one a year for something. I’d think this is unique in the diving industry but them OSELs family of rebreathers are also the only rebreathers on the market with Functional Safety certification to 61508 with high SIL so the fact that no-one else bothers to report/track/fix issues is kind of irrelevant. After all, while I know you don't have to, potential customers diving other makes of rebreather seem quite happy to continue to pay other rebreather manufacturers through the nose multiple times to fix their design and QA issues

    What you appear struggling to fathom Simone may be OSEL sticking their hand up and somewhat uniquely saying, yes it happened, yes OSEL fixed it at OSELs cost….
    Contrast that to continuing claims made by others about their cracked cases, cracked handsets, corroded wiring, MAVs that fall off or stick, units that turn off when you roll backwards off a RHIB and BOVs that stick etc etc On return to their respective manufacturer insult is added to injury by having to pay for these supposed repairs…

    Heck Simon you have me thinking of issues now and that makes me remember that you're still ignorant of the WOB of your own rebreathers BOV in OC and CC modes. And don't know why the unit you dive still does not come with a $20 gag strap as standard?


    Come again Simon. What problems? Oh yes, sorry, a number of divers force dived another brand of sports rebreather and shifted the functional safety requirement for the auto-bailout function of the iCCR to ‘always require’ from ‘attempt to’. Cost OSEL a lot of business that, as it continues to do you but I would hardly call it a problem with the rebreather itself. Delays since then are certainly a problem but it is not as if you can buy a rebreather with either the same functionality as the iCCR or the same breathing performance as any OSEL unit from any other manufacturer.

    BTW it appears that UMG didn’t brief you very well for your work with them as OSELs commercial rebreather is a primary life support system fully CE certified for commercial use and happily dived by the customer with orders placed for a full production run.

    While Simon is a lot more aware from a very very interesting perspective, of this project than he is letting on, others might be interested in educating themselves a little more per page 125 http://www.edtc.org/MINUTES/Minutes%...%20Meeting.pdf
    At this stage, all of your posts can be described as just meaningless, unsubstantiated, unverified waffle with a couple of dodgy PDF’s attached that no one believes, as pretty much no one has ever seen one of your units being dived ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad_Horn View Post

    While Simon is a lot more aware from a very very interesting perspective, of this project than he is letting on, others might be interested in educating themselves a little more per page 125 http://www.edtc.org/MINUTES/Minutes%...%20Meeting.pdf
    Fast forward to 2015 and Skandi Arctic is using the Divex SLS................

    https://vimeo.com/147382001

    “Attitude is a choice. Happiness is a choice. Optimism is a choice. Kindness is a choice. Giving is a choice. Respect is a choice. Whatever choice you make makes you. Choose wisely.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brad_Horn View Post
    Indeed https://www.facebook.com/OpenSafetyE...3144424405002/ would be great to see other rebreather manufacturers developing their own.
    Especially with how inaccurate tempstiks and inhale CO2 monitoring are; as evidenced by the dearth of their testing.
    So the uber professional NORSOK military underwater knife fighting 350m certified company is relying on shit mobile phone videos on faceache to back up their point?

    Carries about as much weight with me as it did in fucking court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Evans View Post
    Fast forward to 2015 and Skandi Arctic is using the Divex SLS................

    https://vimeo.com/147382001

    Much like the rest of us then.
    Ie Not using OSEL pdf s for are day to day diving needs.
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