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    Umbilical dive torch for UK waters ?

    Hi All,

    I'm looking at purchasing an umbilical torch for diving UK waters to replace a really old HID, specifically the torch will be used for Channel wreck diving and also sometimes cave diving, it will be used for Trimix diving also.

    I wanted to know what the general view is in the UK?

    Does anyone have any experience with Light For Me torches? I've used helmet mounted handheld torches from them before in caves and they've always worked well for me. I like the look of the NW7 which has a wide angle and narrow beam capability.

    Looking at Light For Me's website they appear to be ending production of older torches pre 2020 and are about to bring out a new delrin range, so potentially some bargains to be had on the old range if they're any good?

    The top of the range torch appears to be the Halcyon Focus 2.0, does anyone have experience with this? Is it worth the premium price?

    Are there any other brands people use and recommend? I know some UK Instructors use Ammonite, any experience in the wider community?

    Thanks

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    I like my light for me torch, but there after sales support is useless. It took 2 months to get a battery connection changed and the same for a e/o cable to be swapped.

    There's no communication when you send stuff to them you get told they have it then no updates untill they are posting it back which is frustrating.

    It's the only thing that puts me off recommending there lights.

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    Agree with the above. Would not buy Light / Heat for me again. Seem to be a somewhat unreliable product, repairs very slow and where I bought it from didn't understand the difference between warranty and statutory consumer rights. As I need a new torch and vest battery I'm probably going with Ammonite.

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    When I flooded my last canister light, I bought a Big Blue handheld. I use it as a primary light for cave and UK wreck diving and it's as good as the 21w light monkey.

    I have a bungee attached so can clip it off on a d-ring to mimic the umbilical light cable, then hold it in my hand or put it on my helmet. I'm really happy with it. Less weight to carry and cheaper!

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    Quote Originally Posted by t0by View Post
    When I flooded my last canister light, I bought a Big Blue handheld. I use it as a primary light for cave and UK wreck diving and it's as good as the 21w light monkey.

    I have a bungee attached so can clip it off on a d-ring to mimic the umbilical light cable, then hold it in my hand or put it on my helmet. I'm really happy with it. Less weight to carry and cheaper!
    Be interested in finding out more as Big blue is the other option to ammonite that I'm considering

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeF View Post
    Greenforce. they just work.
    Been through too many GF umbilical cables and the battery tech hasn't really kept up

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    Greenforce. they just work.

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    Who is the Irish company that make torches, I think bsac members got a discount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bottle maker View Post
    Who is the Irish company that make torches, I think bsac members got a discount.
    Anchor dive lights. Good kit.

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    I bought an Anchor umbilical light a few months back to replace a LFM.

    Ok so far. Service was obviously much better. The canister is tiny in comparison to others. The model I bought was probably excessive in hindsight. It's got a load of modes that I'll likely never use.

    Beam is decent but not as tight as my LFM 7XPE

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    Quote Originally Posted by NWdiver View Post
    I bought an Anchor umbilical light a few months back to replace a LFM.

    Ok so far. Service was obviously much better. The canister is tiny in comparison to others. The model I bought was probably excessive in hindsight. It's got a load of modes that I'll likely never use.

    Beam is decent but not as tight as my LFM 7XPE
    Same for me; LfM NW7 cable went and took months to sort out. Gave up and bought an Anchor 189 with both the 'cave' umbilical and a 35650 battery for standalone use.

    Happy with it, but the narrow beam's not as tight and sharp as the LfM (as there's 4 focussed LEDs). Need a tight beam in crap water to stop back scatter and also a tight beam for signalling.

    However the Anchor's great for video; the wide beam(s) are good in confined spaces; can dim the lights including independently with the combined beams; the replacable umbilical's great (meaning no waiting for months for repair); it's smaller and lighter than equivalents. It's been for a few dozen dives and has survived my usage -- I'm not kind to my dive kit -- and many dives below 40m.

    I've been going back to the NW7 recently since it got repaired, but probably more because it's attached to the large suit heater battery. Am currently playing around with the Anchor as a stand-alone torch for video.

    The great thing about Anchor is Declan at Anchor is really helpful. He's often at the dive shows -- isn't Coventry coming up soon?

    Happy to recommend them.


 
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