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    Established TDF Member Paulo's Avatar
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    Fuck me! That was one AWFUL survey!!
    Rememeber anything you read on the internet was probably written by some guy sitting at home in his underpants! Including this !!

    Illegitimi non carborundum

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomDTW View Post
    Hey! Iím Tom from DiveTheWreck.
    Our aim is to create a site that can help people easily find the information they need in a clear and fun way whilst appreciating the historic significance of the sites. At the same time, we are all divers ourselves and all love to dive wrecks!
    Several observations.

    One of the questions asked about artist imagery and high quality online drawings of a wreck as a guide. Things are moving on from what folk think a wreck looks like to 3D data and 2D ortho photos can tell you exactly what is there and where it is in the world:

    3D models with location

    And how big it is:

    Measurement and scale

    And even where objects might be buried within the site:

    Digital Elevation Model of the P47-D

    At this stage I am not sure what the site is going to offer?

    Is it intended to be a one-stop-shop for all wreck info?

    How will you acquire the content to make the site authoritative? How will you know the content is accurate and valid? How will you keep it up to date? Things can change quickly:

    F2 Deck Gun going walkabout

    What will be the site's USP and why will we reach for that URL every time we want to know something about a wreck?

    There are a lot of sites out there such as Sketchfab for 3D content, 2D mapping sites to host the ortho photo...wrecksite.eu for more detailed history...personal pages such as the P47-D page above (still gets 50~100 hits per month) that contain a wealth of data. Agreed its not all in one place...but its out there...even books*:

    UB116

    SS Thistlegorm

    Sorry to sound so negative...I like to see folks have a real go at something radical/different...but I am at a bit of a loss as to what this site will do? Maybe its early days and there is more to come?

    *Apologies for the shameless plug...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decosnapper View Post
    .but I am at a bit of a loss as to what this site will do?
    sell T shirts and photos ?

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    Hi Simon,

    First of all these are some truly amazing renders and images of wrecks. We had stumbled over your site when we first started building our website. I totally agree that the methods you have listed are highly accurate and second to none in providing data about our wrecks. The site isn’t intended to be a one stop shop for every single wreck out there; instead, we have chosen to only focus on wrecks we have dived first hand thus really focusing our project.

    Each page we hope will feature an artist’s representation of the wreck, and a write-up of its history supplemented by a short ‘dive plan’ on how we carried out our dives. There are plenty of sources on the web that help keep content accurate which we will certainly use for reference. Perhaps it is best to see this as an ‘artistic project’ over a means of collecting data on all of our wrecks. By diving the wrecks ourselves hopefully on a regular basis this will help us keep the pages up to date and alter our drawings if anything does change.

    Whilst there are a lot of websites that have drawings of wrecks, the style and detail of our drawings, posted in situ with useful information will hopefully make an easier format for diver who perhaps have not yet discovered the wonders of photogrammetry, are yet to explore a particular dive site, or even take their first dive!
    The purpose of the very informal survey we have sent out to dive clubs was to gather some first hand information from the diving community to test the water on what may and may not work, and I must say your post has been incredibly helpful.

    It is certainly early days and we are at a very preliminary stage in developing something that divers can enjoy, but I hope you will find the finished pieces useful.

    Thanks

    Tom

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    I'm looking forwards to the day that we can have accurate sonar images of wrecks so we can plan our dives. However, this is currently difficult and very expensive to do, so will have to wait until the tech's available.

    There's a stunning array of wrecks available around our shores. Focussing on a few means that the majority are missed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UnCheeky Monkey View Post
    sell T shirts and photos ?
    Without a good reason to visit, and to have a USP beyond the likes of Fourth Element et al, thats questionable?

    Quote Originally Posted by TomDTW View Post
    It is certainly early days and we are at a very preliminary stage in developing something that divers can enjoy, but I hope you will find the finished pieces useful.
    Well best of luck with the project. I should add that perhaps I am a poor respondent...not having dived a mainstream wreck just for the sheer concept of just diving a wreck for many years. When you have seen an entire site mapped to a level of detail where 1mm = 1 pixel the idea of an artists rendition is OK but fails to trigger a "Wow" response. Besides, sonar targets and stuff like the P47-D/Meyer's C-130 are more my thing so I wouldn't pay too much attention to my ramblings.
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    Well I put my real email in. Let's see if the site is GDPR compliant or if I can make my first referral to the ICO. It appears to me to be a "collect emails to sell tee shirts site".

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomDTW View Post
    Hey! Iím Tom from DiveTheWreck.

    Over the past few days, we have been sending out a survey in the hope to further our knowledge of the diving community. This is to find out what divers would like to see on our site. While our site is still in construction, gathering the opinions of the diving community will help us to create the best possible experience for everyone.

    Our aim is to create a site that can help people easily find the information they need in a clear and fun way whilst appreciating the historic significance of the sites. At the same time, we are all divers ourselves and all love to dive wrecks!

    Thanks

    Tom
    Hey Tom,

    You just spammed my diving club. You ought to know what GDPR is if you're setting up a business and what the penalties are for spamming people.
    Not impressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisch View Post
    Well I put my real email in. Let's see if the site is GDPR compliant or if I can make my first referral to the ICO. It appears to me to be a "collect emails to sell tee shirts site".
    He's not compliant.
    When he emails you you could phone him back... or make a million stickers saying "call this number for a blow job" and stick them all over public bogs etc


 
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