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    GUE Tech and Cave Instructor johnkendall's Avatar
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    The elite+ Comes as standard with Smart seals, which are a much better solution than the kubis. It's also super rare that anyone actually needs MTM on either the undersuit or drysuit as there are 16 stock sizes and we can do 4 adjustments in the stock size cost.

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    I can't comment on the Otter as I own a Santi but I also have a Fourth Element Argonaut Stealth, both suits are great but the Fourth Element just pips the Santi in my opinion.

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    Otters usually end up a lot cheaper than the website, if you ask nicely.
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    Can someone link to the O'Three membrane, I have seen it mentioned several times but can't find it on the website.

    I am booked to see Dennis at Predator on Saturday, so I want to check this before I put down my hard earned (or in this case yet to be earned as it will be credit card)

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    Quote Originally Posted by barnaby_s View Post
    Can someone link to the O'Three membrane, I have seen it mentioned several times but can't find it on the website.

    I am booked to see Dennis at Predator on Saturday, so I want to check this before I put down my hard earned (or in this case yet to be earned as it will be credit card)
    https://fourthelement.com/argonaut2-0/ - it comes in both Stealth and Flex versions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jen - Winged Blob View Post
    https://fourthelement.com/argonaut2-0/ - it comes in both Stealth and Flex versions.
    I was asking about the O'Three one, I did look at the 4th Element but decided the only dealers I could find were less convenient then getting to Predator in New Milton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaz_ View Post

    .....I’m not part of a diving club in UK at the moment........I would like to get a few dives in this summer so wouldn’t really like to wait until NEC dive show in October....
    I'm probably not far off 100 dives so far this year (wreck and cave) and many still planned. Yet I am struggling to justify binning my 'functioning' otter in favour of a more sexy and comfortable Santi.

    Absolutely understand the 'want' factor, but for a couple of dives this summer with no club to dive with, do you really need £3k worth of suit? 🤔

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    Supergnu Jen - Winged Blob's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by barnaby_s View Post
    I was asking about the O'Three one, I did look at the 4th Element but decided the only dealers I could find were less convenient then getting to Predator in New Milton
    Sorry - been website-hopping between the two recently and it's not the first time I've got them confused!

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    No worries, so is there actually a O'Three membrane or not?

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    Yes, there is. When I was in Portland a couple of weeks ago I went to OThree and they had one on display.

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