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    Fully agree with the above, having used the drive-in chain type places for a few years, generally costing £35-75 even with their “offers” and finding that the system still needs topping up or work doing the following year, I switched to an independent specialist a few years ago. Guy really knew his stuff, came to me at work, spent a little longer with the car but did the job, found a couple of minor leaks at seals, regassed and didn’t need to call out again the following year. Cost £50.

    Since changed car and moved house so used another similar company last summer, again, found some components to be replaced but the guy (seeing I already had the car in bits for other work) suggested I replace them myself to save on the labour cost and then get him back to test/refill the system - even showed me roughly how to do it.


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    Don't worry in a couple of weeks it will be cold and wet again

    I would go for a local £50 regas, they will regas the system ... or will tell you whats wrong with it... if their is a leak they can't regas it ... ether way cool air or a diagnosis

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyG View Post
    An hours diagnostic time at a main dealer will cost you (dependant on area) £70 plus, prestige brands substantially more. There is a shortage of Technicians(are you F55555g kidding me?) in the UK and most dealerships have limited ability and high charges. It could just need a new car?

    FTFY

    Jag dealership charged my Dad £90/per hour to guess what was wrong with his S Type, because they had never seen the issue before.
    (yet if you go to a landrover garage, where the same engine was fitted to Rangies, it was a known common fault)

    They pointed out that it was £90 rather than the usual £120 as it was an old car.


    My Dad pointed to the XF Sportbrake in the showroom and said "See that?, Cancel it", and walked out.


    (went back and bought it about 12months later though, will never buy another Jag after it though.)

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    Refrigeration as an industry has been heavily regulated for the last decade and more but car AC (mobile refrigeration to be precise) has only just this last few years come under similar controls. It is all to do with releasing refrigerants into the atmosphere and therefore adding to pollution / greenhouse emissions.
    Since the crack down on mobile refrigeration regulations the roadside tire replace type companies can no longer "top up" a system. To "top up" a system assumes there is a leak and if the leak has not been repaired the technician doing the work faces heavy fines and or imprisonment (guys have gone to jail for this).

    So to repair a car AC is now not just a fifteen min job and bung the geezer a few quid to be on your way.
    It is a strictly policed and regulated process that requires equipment, and expertise. That costs money so your road side mechanic / technician can fit a machine to the vehicle but he probably has the same amount of knowledge re refrigeration as the driver of the vehicle so when the machine pulls all the refrigerant out and then fails the vehicle on the pressure test the mechanic / technician can only shrug his shoulders and suggest your take it to somebody who knows how to repair it or the main dealership.

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    To take this further, most car AC use open drive compressors, that means the compressor is connected the the car engine by a series of belts and pulleys. the compressor crank shaft therefore requires a shaft seal to stop the refrigerant leaking out. The shaft seal requires oil from the inside of the compressor to lubricate it and this stops the shaft seal drying out and then leaking.
    If you do not run your AC for a few months over the winter period then the shaft seal dries out and the refrigerant starts to weep out. Do this over a few years and the refrigerant charge is then too low and the system needs "topping up".
    That is why road side companies could do an AC "top up" for £30 - £50.

    To prevent this it is recommended that you run your AC through the winter, with the heater turned up to run the compressor. Run it for 20 mins once a month and it will reduce or stop the leaky shaft seal problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by taz View Post
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    To take this further, most car AC use open drive compressors, that means the compressor is connected the the car engine by a series of belts and pulleys. the compressor crank shaft therefore requires a shaft seal to stop the refrigerant leaking out. The shaft seal requires oil from the inside of the compressor to lubricate it and this stops the shaft seal drying out and then leaking.
    If you do not run your AC for a few months over the winter period then the shaft seal dries out and the refrigerant starts to weep out. Do this over a few years and the refrigerant charge is then too low and the system needs "topping up".
    That is why road side companies could do an AC "top up" for £30 - £50.

    To prevent this it is recommended that you run your AC through the winter, with the heater turned up to run the compressor. Run it for 20 mins once a month and it will reduce or stop the leaky shaft seal problem.

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    It is also good at dehumidifying the car and clearing misted windows, I cant remember the last time I turned the AC off.

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    Well, the cheapest recharge kit I could find is:-

    https://www.wilcodirect.co.uk/produc...rcon/CC-AIRCON

    It's £5 cheaper than Halfords and has a pressure guage (extra at Halfords) - £55 (inc the £10 return deposit/free P&P). According to the internet I should get 3 fills out of one bottle. I've just got to check out the location of the valve on the car to see if I need a longer fill hose.

    I liked the look of the USA kit in the YOUTUBE vid I linked in the OP/OP+1 but they seem to cost £45 to ship from the USA. Those kits had the leak dye in them.

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    I got mine topped up in Halfords a few months ago. It was on special offer, took the guy about 15 mins and cost me £30.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesp View Post
    It is also good at dehumidifying the car and clearing misted windows, I cant remember the last time I turned the AC off.
    yup, leave it on "auto" in the ovloV and just hit the heated screen button when its frozen .

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    Quote Originally Posted by drysuitdiver View Post
    yup, leave it on "auto" in the ovloV and just hit the heated screen button when its frozen .
    I miss the heated screen, that was really bloody good.


 
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