Banner Ad

Dive Medicals

Collapse
X
Collapse
 
  • Page of 2
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
Previous 1 2 template Next
  • Spinal
    TDF Member
    • May 2016
    • 415
    #1

    Dive Medicals

    A query - I live in Switzerland, but teach (as a hobby) also in the UK and Italy.

    My medical is due for renewal, and was tempted to just do it here (or in Italy). Is the same medical valid in the other countries? Or do I need a HSE specific one for when I'm in the UK?

    M.
    Tags: None
    • Chrisch
      Tofu eating wokerato
      • Jan 2013
      • 10514
      #2
      HSE is just for work (paid employment). As far as I know a sport diver medical is acceptable throughout (geographic) Europe.
      There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and Tory corruption and I am not sure about the universe.
      With apologies to Albert Einstein.

        Comment

        • Edward3c
          Established TDF Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 793
          #3
          It depends on which agency you’re going to teach.

          If PADI, GUE et al. Yes, you need a HSE medical and follow the Diving At Work Regulations.

          If BSAC, SAA or SSAC (or your national equivalent) and teaching as part of the club for no reward then it’s what your insurer requires. There is no legislation that requires a recreation diver to have a medical in the UK.

            Comment

            • smileydiver
              Not short, just concentrated awesome ;)
              • Dec 2012
              • 4410
              #4
              As above, re if teaching or not. If you were diving with a PADI club and answer yes to any of the questions on the self declaration / liability form you'd need a fit to dive sign off from the doctor but not a full HSE medical if not working.
              The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever - Jacques Cousteau

                Comment

                • Chrisch
                  Tofu eating wokerato
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 10514
                  #5
                  Originally posted by smileydiver
                  ... If you were diving with a PADI club and answer yes to any of the questions on the self declaration / liability form you'd need a fit to dive sign off from the doctor but not a full HSE medical if not working.
                  What is a PADI club? I wasn't aware that PADI had a club structure at all?
                  There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and Tory corruption and I am not sure about the universe.
                  With apologies to Albert Einstein.

                    Comment

                    • Edward3c
                      Established TDF Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 793
                      #6
                      Originally posted by smileydiver
                      As above, re if teaching or not. If you were diving with a PADI club and answer yes to any of the questions on the self declaration / liability form you'd need a fit to dive sign off from the doctor but not a full HSE medical if not working.
                      By the very nature of PADI's structure a PADI instructor will always fall under the Diving At Work Regulations when teaching.

                        Comment

                        • smileydiver
                          Not short, just concentrated awesome ;)
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 4410
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Chrisch
                          What is a PADI club? I wasn't aware that PADI had a club structure at all?
                          Well I am in one! In our case there is a dive centre that offers courses and a 'club' which does trips and socials. You don't pay to join the club, you pay for activities you want to take part in. I know several others who do the same sort of thing, some have a nominal joining fee. But on any trip or dive day, people diving with the club need to complete the liability forms and they are all kept for HSE purposes also.
                          The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever - Jacques Cousteau

                            Comment

                            • smileydiver
                              Not short, just concentrated awesome ;)
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 4410
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Edward3c
                              By the very nature of PADI's structure a PADI instructor will always fall under the Diving At Work Regulations when teaching.
                              Correct, but even if not teaching and not at work (so no HSE medical required) a fit to dive note might be required to cover any qs answered yes.
                              The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever - Jacques Cousteau

                                Comment

                                • Chrisch
                                  Tofu eating wokerato
                                  • Jan 2013
                                  • 10514
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by smileydiver
                                  Well I am in one! In our case there is a dive centre that offers courses and a 'club' which does trips and socials. You don't pay to join the club, you pay for activities you want to take part in. I know several others who do the same sort of thing, some have a nominal joining fee. But on any trip or dive day, people diving with the club need to complete the liability forms and they are all kept for HSE purposes also.
                                  Is that not the shop club though? I was in a shop club and it wasn't affiliated to or connected with PADI in any way. I didn't think PADI had such affiliation and was/am interested to know if this has changed.
                                  There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and Tory corruption and I am not sure about the universe.
                                  With apologies to Albert Einstein.

                                    Comment

                                    • smileydiver
                                      Not short, just concentrated awesome ;)
                                      • Dec 2012
                                      • 4410
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Chrisch
                                      Is that not the shop club though? I was in a shop club and it wasn't affiliated to or connected with PADI in any way. I didn't think PADI had such affiliation and was/am interested to know if this has changed.
                                      Ah, I see what you mean now. No, no, this is just a club in the sense that people get together and do things but no official PADI affiliation. You are correct though that the dive centre is linked to PADI as a training facility. For all our trips, whether training or not we are all asked to sign the liability and self cert forms though. So, if someone came along to join us on a trip or diving day, they would need to show cert card and any necessary paperwork for any yes answers. Anyone can join the trips, they don't have to be PADI trained. I was meaning PADI club as in the dive centre is PADI affiliated not a direct link. Apologies for any confusion. A PADI dive centre linked club might be a better way to put it
                                      The sea, once it casts its spell, holds one in its net of wonder forever - Jacques Cousteau

                                        Comment

                                        • Chrisch
                                          Tofu eating wokerato
                                          • Jan 2013
                                          • 10514
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by smileydiver
                                          ... Apologies for any confusion. ...
                                          No worries. The idea has been mooted before and I thought I might have missed the change.
                                          There are only two things that are infinite, the universe and Tory corruption and I am not sure about the universe.
                                          With apologies to Albert Einstein.

                                            Comment

                                            • bubbleless
                                              Established TDF Member
                                              • Dec 2012
                                              • 981
                                              #12
                                              Some clubs use independent instructors to train their members....

                                                Comment

                                                • Paulo
                                                  Established TDF Member
                                                  • Dec 2012
                                                  • 14507
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by Edward3c
                                                  By the very nature of PADI's structure a PADI instructor will always fall under the Diving At Work Regulations when teaching.
                                                  Even if working for free?
                                                  If my post doesnt have a typo, then I have probably been hacked!

                                                    Comment

                                                    • drysuitdiver
                                                      Banned
                                                      • Dec 2012
                                                      • 8711
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by Paulo
                                                      Even if working for free?
                                                      Yes.


                                                      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                                        Comment

                                                        • Paulo
                                                          Established TDF Member
                                                          • Dec 2012
                                                          • 14507
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by drysuitdiver
                                                          Yes.


                                                          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                                                          Just as well its just a UK thing! The lobby groups were quite effective when that one was brought it
                                                          If my post doesnt have a typo, then I have probably been hacked!

                                                            Comment

                                                            Previous 1 2 template Next
                                                            Working...