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    As I don’t want to subscribe to the telegraph who did they mention as a vaccine producer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan Carr View Post
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    ....//www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2020/03/19/britain-must-build-national-vaccine-plant-beat-coronavirus/

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    I wouldn't take much notice of the Telegraph as a source on this to be fair and the writer has an MA in History so not really a lot of knowledge either (he was 'business' when he worked for the Times).

    As best I understand it there are a lot of different manufacturing techniques for different vaccines and different sorts of vaccines for that matter. Most manufacturing is done where cost are low irrespective of what is being manufactured. The UK has too high rents, too high rates and too high energy costs. But the Telegraph person should know that if he was a business reporter.
    We give 350m a week to the EU. Let's give it to Dido Harding instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeF View Post
    As I don’t want to subscribe to the telegraph who did they mention as a vaccine producer?
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    Currently, the only injectable vaccine manufacturing plant in the UK is one in Liverpool owned by Seqiris, an arm of Commonwealth Serum Laboratories (CSL), an Australian-listed company which has been making vaccines since 1915.

    The company specialises in making flu vaccines but nowhere near enough to supply the whole of the UK. Most flu vaccines are imported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisch View Post
    I wouldn't take much notice of the Telegraph as a source on this to be fair and the writer has an MA in History so not really a lot of knowledge either (he was 'business' when he worked for the Times).

    As best I understand it there are a lot of different manufacturing techniques for different vaccines and different sorts of vaccines for that matter. Most manufacturing is done where cost are low irrespective of what is being manufactured. The UK has too high rents, too high rates and too high energy costs. But the Telegraph person should know that if he was a business reporter.
    Pharmaceutical manufacture is highly automated so labour costs are not a masssive factor. According to our club member, it's proxity to markets and economies of scale as well as government incentives which governs where they are made.

    The leading exporters by countries which make up 85% of pharmaceutical exports are

    1. Germany: US$62.3 billion (16.8% of total drugs and medicines exports)
    2. Belgium: $27.8 billion (7.5%)
    3. France: $25.9 billion (7%)
    4. United States: $22 billion (5.9%)
    5. Spain: $21.8 billion (5.8%)
    6. Ireland: $21.7 billion (5.8%)
    7. United Kingdom: $19.7 billion (5.3%)
    8. Italy: $19.6 billion (5.3%)
    9. Netherlands: $16.8 billion (4.5%)
    10. India $14.8 billion (3.8%)
    11. Denmark: $13 billion (3.5%)
    12. Canada: $6.8 billion (1.8%)
    13. Sweden: $6.7 billion (1.8%)
    14. Austria: $5.5 billion (1.5%)

    As you can see, these are not low cost countries apart from India which is the world's largest manufacturer of vaccines.
    Last edited by Allan Carr; 30-01-2021 at 03:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan Carr View Post
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    Currently, the only injectable vaccine manufacturing plant in the UK is one in Liverpool owned by Seqiris, an arm of Commonwealth Serum Laboratories (CSL), an Australian-listed company which has been making vaccines since 1915.

    The company specialises in making flu vaccines but nowhere near enough to supply the whole of the UK. Most flu vaccines are imported.
    You mean Evans vaccines/Novartis (they have the same `phone number) just off Speke Boulavard; has it been sold, again?

    GSK shut their factory in Speke years ago, they make e-cigs and a warehouse for sports direct there now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan Carr View Post
    Pharmaceutical manufacture is highly automated so labour costs are not a masssive factor. According to our club member, it's proxity to markets and economies of scale as well as government incentives which governs where they are made. ...
    Yes, that sounds realistic. As I posted, rent, rates, energy. Germany will be high on the list as the German government and banking systems favour industry whilst the UK government and banking systems favour rentiers.
    We give 350m a week to the EU. Let's give it to Dido Harding instead.

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    Very noticeable when you get off the plane at German airports, the vast majority of the adverts are for manufacturing companies whereas in UK airports it's banks.

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    Absolutely appalling video from Japan about killing of a whale accidentally caught in nets. Didn't do my blood pressure any good. How can anyone be so cruel.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-55714815

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan Carr View Post
    Absolutely appalling video from Japan about killing of a whale accidentally caught in nets. Didn't do my blood pressure any good. How can anyone be so cruel.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-55714815
    I saw that they killed it despite calls for it's release and it was trapped for days so not a true by-catch.

    Seems wrong to like the post so to you and for the fishermen.
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-55894608
    Slightly better news for marine conservation but not holding my breath.
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