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    Question Satellite villages?

    As I was out cycling this morning, I wondered why a lot of villages around us seem to carry 'spares' - Sibton has Sibton Green, which is probably about a mile away as the crow flies, but more like two by road. Darsham has Darsham Street, as do a lot of others and there's a Friday Street on the edge of Gromford, but no Friday. Dennington has a whole circle of Greens, Owl's Green and Swan green are two of about 6. None of these places are centered around greens or streets, so I wondered if it's where the population decamped to after being moved off the land by plague or enclosure?
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    Street normally describes a Roman road.
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    We've only got one locally and that's Heveningham long lane. We do, however, have an awful lot of streets
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    There are apparently 3 Friday Streets in Suffolk. Wikipedia just says they predate the Normans
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    Sometimes it goes back to the original manor. Then the next generation moves along on to the closest less good farm land. They name it the same as the original settlement plus a suffix. Then the next generation moves to the next less good land, they name that the same plus a different suffix. You'll get variations on the same original name strung out along a water course, a valley or a road or something like that. Goes back to the Anglo-Saxon era.
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    So I'm kind of right then?
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    Ah the fun of Deserted Medieval Villages and their consequences.


    There's a place in Kent called Green Street Green. A road that went to it is Green Street Green Road. Confuses the hell out of some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divemouse View Post
    We've only got one locally and that's Heveningham long lane. We do, however, have an awful lot of streets
    Streets as place names rather than road names tend to come from the Anglo Saxon term for Roman road, streat. From that, the term street was coined for individual paved roads and highways.
    Place names tend to describe what they are, after all, the name for somewhere was probably coined by neighbours. Your village would just be "The Village" but you might call the one up the road Norton to differentiate is from Easton. (North farm and East farm.)
    As NYD says, one name would would be used with suffixes. E,g Moreton (farm in a marsh) could be a number of similar properties and people would use other descriptive term so that they new which one they were talking about. E.g Maids Moreton as tradition has it that the church was paid for by two ladies.
    Also , suffixes would be used to show which family had the manorial rights. These were often granted in Norman times. This is why we have Milton Keynes ( Middle farm owned by the De Cahaignes family.)
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    Our names are mostly viking - I live at the homestead of Sibba and up the road is the homestead of Ubba
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    The North East has some interesting names. In County Durham there are Chester-le-Street, Hetton-le-Hole and Houghton-le-Spring.
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