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Soggy
30-12-2012, 05:27 PM
When i get some time over the coming weeks i'll put up a few bits and bobs i have regarding Armed Trawlers. Got the bug after diving the HMT Pine off of Selsey and our club adopted it. I then began the process of doing a little research and got hooked on finding out about these unsung hero's of both world wars.

So heres a thread for all things Armed Trawlers.

A Brief Introduction....


The Role of the Armed Trawler.


The start of the second world war saw a huge rise in the industrial needs of Great Britain as such our allies and trading partners had only one way to get the raw materials into this country and that was via the sea, it won’t of escaped your notice that we are island nation. Raw materials would be bought in from across the globe to our ports and harbours but they would need protecting throughout their journey. This protection was afforded these merchant ship via the Royal Navy but it left one vital link in the chain unguarded and that was the approaches to our coastline

Initially the armed trawler was a simple and effective attempt to protect the ports and harbours of the country, the navy quickly saw the benefit in converting fishing trawlers to protection duties around the approaches to our major ports after all who better to police the local area than the local fishermen. Many trawlers were quickly converted to both anti-submarine and mine-sweeping duties and crewed with the experience of the local fishing fleets.

This worked well for the fishermen as the boats they knew how best to handle were the very fishing boats being converted for war. Those self same boats were highly seaworthy and able to put out to sea in all weathers. They became the work horse of coastal protection with many and varied roles from the opening and closing of boom gates, barrage ballon tethers, anti-submarine warfare and sweeping the approaches for drifting submerged mines.

The navy initially classified the requisitioned trawlers’ by manufacturer and 3 classes of requisitioned trawler came about, they were the Mersey, Strath and Castle classes. It was only later that the navy began to commission new trawlers to be built and all subsequent classes of trawler had the same ancestry. It was the trawler Basset built in 1935 that all subsequent armed trawlers’ were based upon. There were 13 sub classes of armed trawlers, they were Basset, Tree, Dance, Shakespearian, Isles, Admiralty, Portuguese, Brazilian, Castle, Hills, Fish, Round Table and Military class, in total 250 armed trawlers were built between 1935 and 1945.

With the invasion and subsequent liberation of France, a new phase in the war emerged and the armed trawlers were suddenly called to serve in a new and unfamiliar capacity, this time as convoy protection, a role they were woefully unsuited for both in fire power and manoeuvrability. Many convoys’ plied the coastal routes and armed trawlers were called to provide protection from submarines to these convoys. The slow speed of the trawlers meant that often should a trawler be called away to investigate a submarine sighting or engage the enemy of any kind they would quickly drop behind the convoy and many hours would go by before the trawlers’ could return to their positions.

The German u-boat captains knew of the short comings of the trawlers and would play a cat and mouse game with the armed trawlers. The u-boats could out pace the armed trawlers on the surface so would let themselves be sighted before turning and trying to outrun the armed trawlers to get to a position enabling them to engage the allied convoys.

The heroism and bravery of the armed trawler captains didn’t go unnoticed by the German naval commanders and one engagement shows quite simply how the armed trawlers and their crews fought even in the face of over whelming odds.

Her Majesties Trawler Juniper, of the Tree Class, was escorting a tanker during the Norwegian campaign and while in Norwegian waters spotted a German naval squadron comprising two battleships, Scharnhorst and Gneisenau, the cruiser Admiral Hipper and four destroyers. Seeing that she couldn’t escape this squadron as she didn’t have the speed, the HMT Juniper hoisted her battle ensign and turned under full steam for the enemy squadron. With only her diminutive 12 pounder, she turned into 530 tonnes of spitting , fighting fury and sailed head first into the squadron, incredibly surviving for an hour and a half before finally succumbing to the battleships, sinking beneath the waves and leaving only 4 survivors.

Armed trawlers were stationed in small fleets anywhere the admiralty thought they were required, many stationed around the coast of Britain, in Shetland, Plymouth, Portland, Portsmouth and Rosyth. A number of armed trawlers were stationed further a field from Iceland through Gibraltar and the Mediterranean to the Azores and South Africa. The humble armed trawler made her presence felt across the globe.

Spirit of Guernsey
30-12-2012, 05:32 PM
http://www.aegis-ceramics.co.uk/wbsac/channel/ammowk.htm

http://youtu.be/7eCWCT7ONCI

Soggy
30-12-2012, 06:06 PM
http://www.aegis-ceramics.co.uk/wbsac/channel/ammowk.htm

with a name like Rudolf Wahrendorf, i assume she's a german armed trawler. Can't find her in the books for the admiralty or requisitioned trawlers.

Soggy
30-12-2012, 06:07 PM
dupe

johnny boy
30-12-2012, 07:09 PM
Quite a few off Newcastle, NE. Ron Young is the man to advise on all things in that region. He'll be along soon enough...

Marky Mark
30-12-2012, 07:12 PM
HMT Herring, off of Spellbinder II. For me one of the best dives around the North east coast.

But then we are spoilt up here.

MyM

Soggy
30-12-2012, 07:27 PM
These are the English Channel Trawler Wrecks that i've been able to decipher.

NameAscending Order Nationality Type Pennant No. Propulsion Cause Year° Year† Weight Latitude Longitude

Abelard HMT (151) [+1916] british trawler 151 steamer ran aground (wrecked) 1909 1916 187 50°19 918N 004°08 518W

Agate HMT [+1918] british trawler 1635 steamer mine 1913 1918 248 50°46 285N 000°33 952E

Alberni HMCS (K103) [+1944] canadian patrol boat K103 steamer torpedo 1940 1944 2036 50°17 455N 000°49 504W

Albion II HMT (139) [+1916] british trawler 139 steamer mine 1907 1916 240 50°38 318N 001°34 267W

Almond HMS (T14) [+1941] british trawler 14 steamer mine 1940 1941 530 50°04 333N 004°54 960W

Angelus ? HMT [+1916] british trawler 1629 steamer mine 1914 1916 304 51°04 774N 001°18 814E

Anthony Hope HMT (part B) [+1916] british trawler 1380 steamer mine 1913 1916 288 49°30 950N 000°01 740W

Apley HMT (143) [+1917] british trawler 143 steamer mine 1908 1917 222 50°37 018N 000°56 087W

Arfon HMT [+1917] british trawler 134 steamer mine 1908 1917 227 50°29 845N 002°10 449W

Asama HMT [+1941] british minesweeper steamer air raid 1929 1941 303 50°20 534N 004°08 901W

Avanturine HMMS [+1943] british minesweeper 1886 steamer sea battle 1930 1943 296 50°41 935N 000°14 138E

Balfour HMT [+1918] british trawler 1228 steamer collision 1912 1918 285 50°39 716N 000°23 741E

Benton Castle HMT [+1916] british trawler 1972 steamer mine 1914 1916 283 50°18 518N 003°31 705W

Bonar Law HMS (+1915) british trawler 1223 steamer collision 1912 1915 285 51°07 699N 01°24 569E

Borneo HMT (FY1809) [+1917] british trawler 1809 steamer mine 1905 1917 211 50°37 930N 000°13 170E

Cambrian FV [+1940] british trawler steamer mine 1924 1940 338 50°44 501N 001°03 395W

Caulonia HMT (+1943) british trawler 3201 - 163 steamer ran aground (wrecked) 1912 1943 296 50°55 285N 000°50 134E

Cayton Wyke ? HMT [+1940] british trawler 191 torpedo 1932 1940 373 51°09 125N 001°28 096E

Cleon HMT [+1918] british trawler 1514 steamer mine 1907 1918 266 51°02 247N 001°11 165E

Computator HMY (FY-635) [+1945] british trawler 635 steamer collision 1919 1945 286 49°42 748N 000°37 298W

Corona HMT (1137) (+1916) british trawler 1137 steamer mine 1912 1916 212 51°08 50N 001°25 00E

Comet HMS [+1942] british tug 1942 301 50°05 768N 004°57 104W

Crestflower HMT [+1940] british trawler steamer air raid 1930 1940 367 50°27 776N 001°18 772W

Dagon FV (+1916) british trawler 3202 steamer mine 1914 1916 250 50°43 448N 000°26 087E

Dudley Rose HMT [+1941] british trawler steamer air raid 1929 1941 1600 50°23 668N 003°26 405W

Ellesmere HMT (FY204) [+1945] british trawler steamer torpedo 1939 1945 580 49°03 936N 005°31 092W

Elk HMT (FY 4.24) [+1940] british trawler 706 steamer mine 1902 1940 181 50°18 427N 004°10 315W

Evadne HMT (H-945) [+1917] british minesweeper 148 steamer mine 1907 1917 189 50°33 777N 000°43 250W

Falmouth III FV [+1915] british trawler 152 steamer mine 1909 1915 198 51°02 633N 001°18 883E

Fraser SS [+1917] british trawler 1379 steamer mine 1907 1917 310 50°45 236N 001°31 317E

Ganilly HMT [+1944] british trawler 376 motor vessel torpedo 1943 1944 545 50°15 737N 000°56 887W

Gambri HMT [+1918] british trawler 1263 steamer mine 1916 1918 274 50°43 419N 000°26 436E

Gullfoss HMT (FY-710) [+1941] british trawler 710 motor vessel mine 1929 1941 730 50°52 035N 000°58 116E

Glen Boyne HMT [+1919] british trawler 289 steamer mine 1915 1919 224 51°01 501N 001°23 014E

Hermes SS trawler steamer 51°04 039N 01°45 586E

Hickory HMS [+1940] british minesweeper 116 steamer mine 1939 1940 530 50°29 434N 002°54 592W

Jasper ? HMT [+1942] british trawler 14 1942 592 50°10 513N 003°37 747W

James Fennell FV [+1920] british trawler 3753 steamer ran aground (wrecked) 1918 1920 215 50°32 776N 002°27 490W

Jean Frederic HMT? [+1941] british trawler 3799 air raid 1941 329 50°13 035N 003°37 070W

Keryado HMT [+1941] british trawler steamer mine 1920 1941 252 50°37 786N 000°04 993W

Kingston Alalite HMS [+1940] british trawler 136 steamer mine 1932 1940 412 50°19 734N 004°10 301W

Kingston Cairngorm HMT [+1940] british trawler steamer mine 1935 1940 448 50°27 649N 002°31 568W

Kingston Galena HMT [+1940] british trawler 145 air raid 1940 550 51°07 334N 001°24 730E

Kingston Jacinth ? HMT [+1943] british trawler 445 steamer mine 1929 1943 356 50°33 252N 000°37 290W

Kurd HMT (FY 639) [+1945] british minesweeper 639 steamer mine 1930 1945 352 49°51 759N 005°01 771W

Lancer II HMT [+1918] british trawler 1151 steamer collision 1914 1918 275 50°44 201N 000°01 056E

Lord Stamp ? HMT [+1940] british trawler 1940 448 50°23 395N 002°40 127W

Loch Eribol HMT (stern Part)? [+1945] british trawler 704 steamer collision 1929 1945 352 50°13 417N 003°09 226W

Lord Hailsham HMT [+1943] british trawler 1943 445 50°23 251N 003°02 824W

Lord Inchcape HMT (+1940) british trawler steamer mine 1924 1940 338

Lord Stonehaven HMT [+1942] british trawler steamer torpedo 1934 1942 444 50°11 185N 004°08 417W

Lord Snowden ? [+1942] british trawler 1942 444 50°04 210N 004°58 660W

Loyalty HMS (J217) [+1944] british minesweeper steamer torpedo 1941 1944 850 50°12 718N 000°44 020W

Lucknow HMT (+1917) british trawler 649 steamer mine 1903 1917 171 50°38 580N 000°44 232W

Manor HMT [+1942] british trawler 299 steamer torpedo 1913 1942 314 50°19 427N 003°01 668W

Michael Clements HMT (+1918) british trawler 3561 steamer collision 1917 1918 324 50°21 487N 001°29 041W

Northcoates HMT [+1944] british trawler 3697 steamer gale/storm 1918 1944 277 50°39 718N 000°35 395W

Peridot HMT (FY 198) [+1940] british trawler steamer mine 1933 1940 398 51°05 634N 001°25 588E

Pine HMT [+1944] british trawler T101 steamer torpedo 1940 1944 530 50°43 057N 000°37 183W

Remindo HMT [+1918] british trawler 3065 steamer explosion 1917 1918 256 50°26 191N 002°43 717W

Rinovia HMT [+1941] british trawler steamer 1941 429 50°05.874' N 004°59.053' W

Rodino HMT [+1940] british trawler 1230 1940 230 51°07 034N 001°23 804E

Roche Bonne HMT [+1941] british trawler steamer air raid 1913 1941 258 49°54 912N 005°11 878W

Royalo HMT [+1940] british minesweeper 2955 motor vessel mine 1916 1940 248 50°06 808N 005°31 002W Off Penzance harbour in 10m

Recoil (stern Section)? HMT [+1940] british trawler 1940 344 50°26 413N 002°44 135W

Resparko HMS [+1940] british 2958 1940 50°09 201N 005°03 129W

Saint Hubert SS (+1916) french patrol boat 3306 steamer mine 1912 1916 216 49°41 037N 001°40 342W

Sapper HMT [+1917] british trawler 1162 steamer mine 1915 1917 276 50°37 319N 000°41 233W

Taipo HMT [+1917] british trawler 1627 steamer mine 1914 1917 247 50°41 486N 000°18 138E

Tranquil HMT [+1942] british trawler 1342 1942 294 51°13 183N 001°27 779E used to be HMS Good Luck

Transvaal ? HMT [+1944] british trawler Y7.45 steamer foundered 1916 1944 250 49°50 566N 003°40 171W
requisitioned December 1939 and converted to auxilliary patrol vessel, 1942 converted to an 'Esso' and joined Mediterranean Fleet, 1944 left MF to return to UK, foundered on passage in gale in English Channel. (Toghill: Trawlers2; Colledge: Ship RN Vol2; Lenton/Colledge: Warships WW2)

Ullswater HMS (FY 252) (+1942) british trawler 252 steamer torpedo 1939 1942 560

Wallasea HMT [+1944] british trawler 345 steamer torpedo 1943 1944 545 49°56 486N 005°28 192W SouthEast of Runnel Stone in 50m

Warwick Deeping HMT [+1940] british trawler 182 steamer torpedo 1934 1940 445 50°34 218N 001°27 810W

Weigelia HMT (153) [+1916] british trawler 153 steamer mine 1911 1916 261.53 51°08 551N 001°27 113E

Mark
30-12-2012, 08:01 PM
I dived the Warwick Deeping with Divers Down, Swanage earlier this year.

Amazing dive, well worth doing.

Mr Grumpy
30-12-2012, 09:07 PM
There's the Milford Earl, photos make it look a good dive but there's a shortage of decent launching sites in the vicinity. It's on the "To-Do" list for 2013.