Hms terror found in northern canada

[MinimalMayhem]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/12/hms-terror-wreck-found-arctic-nearly-170-years-northwest-passage-attempt?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

A mere 20m down or so. Might be a bit brisk though.

[Garf]

This is a mystery I have been obsessed about since a child. I have boxes full of books on the subject in the attic. The position of the ship does, unfortunately raise a few more questions than it answers!

[Nickpicks]

From those photos, it's remarkably well preserved. Where's my crowbar?

[Mikael]

Why would someone name a ship HMS Terror?

[gpj]

Why would someone name a ship HMS Terror?

The definition of terror has evolved over time?

[Garf]

Why would someone name a ship HMS Terror?

There have been a lot of ships, both British and American, called the terror. More interestingly, why would you call a ship Erebus (the other ship in the franklin expedition) when that is the area of the underworld that the dead pass through.

For that matter, why call a ship Titanic, named after immortal beings thrown down for arrogance by the gods.

[Alex Denny]

I'd love to brave the cold and dive it one day! I'd also like to go looking for Amelia Earhart's plane, which they also seem to be getting closer to... http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/pioneering-aviator-amelia-earhart-died-castaway-desert-island-1580923

[Baron015]

Why would someone name a ship HMS Terror?

Mikael, the most reliable and well researched info on the Erebus and Terror and the search for the north west passage is from the Dan Simmons 2010 book, The Terror. Well worth a read !

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Terror-Dan-Simmons-ebook/dp/B003JH79D2/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1473789647&sr=1-1&keywords=Terror



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[Garf]

Mikael, the most reliable and well researched info on the Erebus and Terror and the search for the north west passage is from the Dan Simmons 2010 book, The Terror. Well worth a read !

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Terror-Dan-Simmons-ebook/dp/B003JH79D2/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1473789647&sr=1-1&keywords=Terror



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Erm. Sorry. I disagree. It's certainly the best NOVEL based on the historical events, and an excellent read, but you have to remember Simmons makes some huge steps into fantasy as he was writing a drama and horror novel, not a factual history. For example, it is considered by many modern researchers quite likely that the men died from a combination of lead poisoning and botulinum toxicity in the food in the early and mid stages of the expedition, and then exposure, scurvy and starvation later on when the lethal food ran out. I have not, on the other hand, read a great deal of research that proposes some of the crew were eaten by a giant supernatural monster.

Equally, the story is told from first person perspectives of the crew, none of which is actually available and all written for dramatic effect. Still a damn good novel, but you can't rely on it for facts.

If you are looking for the most reliable and well researched factual information then I'd start with....

Frozen in Time by Geiger and Beattie
Fatal Passage by McGoogan
The Fate of Franklin by Owen
Ice Blink by Cookman
The Artic Grail by Berton (great background to the search for the northwest passage)

any of which I'd be happy to lend to an interested TDFer.

[Baron015]

Aw you spoil my fun. I was wondering whether Mikel would notice something was up before the ghost monster made an appearance. And Dan Simmons is a terrible writer.


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[Garf]

Actually I enjoyed the novel - but then I love anything I can read about the franklin expedition. If you like the first person novel approach but hate Simmons then I recommend "north with franklin, the lost diaries of fitzjames" which is an excellent read.


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[Alex Denny]

Totally different boat and different story, but I love the Star of the Sea...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_the_Sea_(book)

[steelemonkey]

Garf, what started your interest in this subject?

[Strange One.]

If you are looking for the most reliable and well researched factual information then I'd start with....

Frozen in Time by Geiger and Beattie
Fatal Passage by McGoogan
The Fate of Franklin by Owen
Ice Blink by Cookman
The Artic Grail by Berton (great background to the search for the northwest passage)

any of which I'd be happy to lend to an interested TDFer.

If that's a genuine offer, I'd love to have a read of all of them. Exploration has always been a great fascination to me, and I've just finished a stunning book about the voyages of Vasco de Gama and his quest to bring spices back to Europe. Is it any wonder that one of the greatest Englishmen, (and fellow Yorkshireman), to ever sail the oceans, the sainted James Cook, is one of my heroes? (Note to self: have a day out in Whitby on Saturday, and visit Captain Cook's old home.)