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ootini
07-01-2013, 09:49 AM
Hey all,

Just a quick question. I know a lot of you have already downloaded the digi copies of the Curry Bible, and some may have even printed it out to hard copy. However, should the curry bible version 2.0 (big changes) be printed professionally and "published" would you buy a copy, if any and all profits were donated to the RNLI? As I've said in the past, I didn't produce the curry bible in order to make money, I did it because I like it and think others might like it too, however, if there is the potential to use it as a fund raising tool to make a few quid for the RNLI, or other "dive" related charity, then that's great. But I don't want to go spending a fortune on publishing etc for every one to go "Nah you're ok, already go it" and then end up out of pocket.

Thanks

*EDIT* Obviously a hard copy would include a lot more info than the bible does at present, and photographs showing each stage of cooking etc.

The Duck
07-01-2013, 10:08 AM
With good photos, nice clear layout, a bit of interesting stuff (e.g. a quick paragraph or couple of lines about the curries, where (and maybe 'what') the originated from, useful tips and assides), and a nice sized format, coming in at the 20 mark (a typical sort of price for this kind of thing - have a look at Antonio Carrluccio's 'Collection' for a basic idea of what I'm getting at, which comes in at 25) - then you can put me down for a copy.

ootini
07-01-2013, 10:10 AM
I'll check out Carluccio's for an idea! Thanks

Jen - Winged Blob
07-01-2013, 10:14 AM
With good photos, nice clear layout, a bit of interesting stuff (e.g. a quick paragraph or couple of lines about the curries, where (and maybe 'what') the originated from, useful tips and assides), and a nice sized format, coming in at the 20 mark (a typical sort of price for this kind of thing - have a look at Antonio Carrluccio's 'Collection' for a basic idea of what I'm getting at, which comes in at 25) - then you can put me down for a copy.

+1

ootini
07-01-2013, 10:23 AM
Also, if anyone has any experience in how to get something like this produced I'd be very grateful for any pointers. Do I just get a graphic design company to produce it for me and then head to a printers to have it churned out? or is there some black magic involved?

Jizz Monkey
07-01-2013, 10:45 AM
Put it this way, get a price, if its reasonable then i'm happy to pay upfront :)

For reference, home made / custom cook books are traditional gifts here in Germany for weddings.

unserGeschenkbuch.de (http://www.unsergeschenkbuch.de/)

Going rate for one of these is 10€ plus postage etc....

But more exy if you get them from the states...

Custom Cookbooks by Jeri turns your family's favorite recipes into a treasured f (http://www.customcookbooks.net/)

that aside, this might be a good way for you to do this. Gets the organising out of your hands, and in to someone elses!!?

Online Book Publishing. Make and sell your own book | Blurb Books UK (http://www.blurb.co.uk/sell-your-book)

Chriselliott
07-01-2013, 10:52 AM
If youre going to donate to a charity might be worthwhile getting in touch with them as they may have experience of doing similar?

ootini
07-01-2013, 10:52 AM
If youre going to donate to a charity might be worthwhile getting in touch with them as they may have experience of doing similar?

Good point.

Baz
07-01-2013, 11:12 AM
I would go down the ebook route. Much cheaper to get it into virtual print than self publishing.

Far less risk to you in being out of pocket.

Now people are using tablets so the photos can be in colour.

Chriselliott
07-01-2013, 11:14 AM
Good point. How about people in here taking pictures for the book? By the way ill def get a copy whether hardback or ebook

jamesp
07-01-2013, 11:19 AM
I know people who have self published.
It aint cheap.

If you are getting into photographs and profesional page layups, the costs are heading one way only.

E book format would get my vote as well.

Irnbru
07-01-2013, 11:43 AM
Ootini - I much prefer a physical "thing" and you can get very short print runs now thanks to "straight to plate" printing presses, so you could almost do a short run and order up a new batch every quarter say (save you having a room taken over by books).

The DTP costs (text creation, editing, proof reading, layout, image creation, retouching etc) will be the same whether you go electronic or print. With print it's not so easy for people to email a copy to each other. You can make Apps with App Studio for Quark Express (DTP program) so less easy to mail around than a PDF.

Although only Monday AM...I now *really* need a curry...

ebt
07-01-2013, 12:02 PM
Dave, take a look at lulu. It's not ideal, but probably suits low volume/startup stuff.

ootini
07-01-2013, 12:16 PM
Cheers for all the advice so far!

Maybe we need a list?

Chriselliott
07-01-2013, 12:18 PM
2. Yes

Elvis
07-01-2013, 12:22 PM
Why not do it as a kickstarter? Then you can be sure of getting the cash up front (an easy stretch goal or higher level goal would be hard copy version)

ootini
07-01-2013, 12:26 PM
Why not do it as a kickstarter? Then you can be sure of getting the cash up front (an easy stretch goal or higher level goal would be hard copy version)


Prohibited uses:
No charity or cause funding.
Examples of prohibited use include raising money for the Red Cross, funding an awareness campaign, funding a scholarship, or promoting the donation of funds raised, or future profits, to a charity or cause.

Guidelines ? Kickstarter (http://www.kickstarter.com/help/guidelines)

Elvis
07-01-2013, 12:28 PM
Well I'll be, never expected that.

What about indiegogo do they have the same weird terms?

ootini
07-01-2013, 12:42 PM
Well I'll be, never expected that.

What about indiegogo do they have the same weird terms?

It took me by surprise too, I'll check Indiegogo, thanks.

BTS
07-01-2013, 01:21 PM
I would be in for a copy but can the money go somewhere other than the RNLI, there are many deserving causes and the lifeboat fund is heavily cash rich, enough in the pot to keep them going well into the future...

ootini
07-01-2013, 01:46 PM
I would be in for a copy but can the money go somewhere other than the RNLI, there are many deserving causes and the lifeboat fund is heavily cash rich, enough in the pot to keep them going well into the future...

Yeah, it was just a thought. Any suggestions for suitable and worth charidees are welcome.

The Duck
07-01-2013, 01:57 PM
I'm with Irnbru on the having a real book rather than an ebook.

ootini
07-01-2013, 03:44 PM
I'll look into it. Just so everyone is aware, this will NOT be replacing the online curry bible. If it does end up being produced in hard copy and sold for charity purposes, is will be a posh / pictuery snapshot of a certain version of the Curry Bible, and may include a couple of exclusive bits n bobs, but the free-for-all curry bible will continue to be updated etc..

Captain Cornwall
07-01-2013, 04:03 PM
I like the e-book idea, we use tablets in our kitchen for web recipes when cooking, I didnt realise the RNLI were rolling in folding - should I stop bunging pound coins in the charity boxeswhen down the coast?

ootini
07-01-2013, 04:21 PM
I like the e-book idea, we use tablets in our kitchen for web recipes when cooking, I didnt realise the RNLI were rolling in folding - should I stop bunging pound coins in the charity boxeswhen down the coast?

I think hard copy appeals to the majority, so I'll deal with that first, converting it to an eBook should be relatively straight forward after that.

BTS
07-01-2013, 04:56 PM
I didnt realise the RNLI were rolling in folding - should I stop bunging pound coins in the charity boxes when down the coast?

Keep chucking your coins in, I just wanted to point put there are charities out there that need the money more.

Here are the RNLIs 2011 accounts, they do quite well...

http://rnli.org/SiteCollectionDocuments/2011%20Annual%20Report%20and%20Accounts%202011%20L R.pdf

cazyoung
07-01-2013, 05:08 PM
Would be interested paper version! Have you contacted Frosty about publishing he may well be able to help you.......

Dogmeat
07-01-2013, 07:14 PM
It's not gonna have any pictures of you naked but for a well placed naan bread on the cover is it?!

ootini
07-01-2013, 07:16 PM
Ooh good thinking batman.

Dogmeat
07-01-2013, 07:20 PM
Oh no, now look what have I gone and done......

Captain Cornwall
07-01-2013, 07:35 PM
Keep chucking your coins in, I just wanted to point put there are charities out there that need the money more.

Here are the RNLIs 2011 accounts, they do quite well...

http://rnli.org/SiteCollectionDocuments/2011%20Annual%20Report%20and%20Accounts%202011%20L R.pdf

Thanks for the info BTS agree that there are smaller less well known charities

Big_Si
07-01-2013, 07:47 PM
Have you thought about doing a book through photobox or someone similar? Might work out a bit pricy
New Cookbook ? The best way to create your own personalised family recipe cookbook - PhotoBox (http://www.photobox.co.uk/shop/photo-books/cookbook)

o2dependant
08-01-2013, 09:44 AM
To make the most money I would suggest an e-book.

Smashwords will let you publish an e book for free and let you retain 85%(through them) of the revenue (60% 15% 30%) you,them, retailer if you use ibooks or similar.

That way you would not be at risk of being financially out of pocket and all the hard work you need to put in will raise funds.

Selling a book for 20 very difficult.

Markymark75
09-01-2013, 09:39 AM
To make the most money I would suggest an e-book.

(60% 15% 30%) you,them, retailer if you use ibooks or similar.



Sorry about being a pedant here, but that's 105%

slimey
09-01-2013, 03:39 PM
I'd be up for a paper book, although would prefer closer to 10 than 20.

Of course, if someone wants to buy me and my wife iPads each, then I'd happily take an eBook version instead.

Marky Mark
09-01-2013, 05:55 PM
Either way, if someone puts the time and effort in I'll buy one. Be rude not to.

MyM

weazelz
18-01-2013, 03:55 PM
I don't know terribly much about it, but there are print-on-demand publishers out there:

Self Publish a Book - Lulu.com (http://www.lulu.com/publish/books/?cid=nav_bks)

my impression is that it gives you a fairly risk-/overhead-free way of publishing relatively small numbers of books

John-flood
19-01-2013, 02:21 PM
Yeah I would be interested

Mark Rowe
19-01-2013, 02:30 PM
+1 for me too