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Billy Fish
27-07-2014, 05:56 PM
Hi all,

This is my 1st post (excluding intro) so if this is in the wrong area please forgive me.

I am going to Cuba in October to get married and am planning a few days diving whilst the wife-to-be tops up her tan!

As I am still relatively new to scuba and have never done a sea dive before and I would feel more comfortable with my own gear.

I have got my own BCD/regs/computer/fins/mask and wetsuit. We have got our 20kg allowance with 5kg hand luggage each plus 20kg for "wedding stuff only".

I have a Hollis wet box with wire cable holes around the lid to secure it, the travel agent couldn't advise me on what to transport my gear in and as I'm a total newbie I have no clue!! My kit & box weigh 14kg in total (box is 4kg) 15kg = £60 for both flights compared to 20quid a kilo if over on the day.

Finally the question:

Do you guys think this a safe/acceptable method for flight transportation?

Sorry if this has been longwinded 😴 for such a little question lol

Many thanks for any response if you've not got bored by time you get to the Q!!

rivers
27-07-2014, 06:45 PM
Hi all,

This is my 1st post (excluding intro) so if this is in the wrong area please forgive me.

I am going to Cuba in October to get married and am planning a few days diving whilst the wife-to-be tops up her tan!

As I am still relatively new to scuba and have never done a sea dive before and I would feel more comfortable with my own gear.

I have got my own BCD/regs/computer/fins/mask and wetsuit. We have got our 20kg allowance with 5kg hand luggage each plus 20kg for "wedding stuff only".

I have a Hollis wet box with wire cable holes around the lid to secure it, the travel agent couldn't advise me on what to transport my gear in and as I'm a total newbie I have no clue!! My kit & box weigh 14kg in total (box is 4kg) 15kg = £60 for both flights compared to 20quid a kilo if over on the day.

Finally the question:

Do you guys think this a safe/acceptable method for flight transportation?

Sorry if this has been longwinded �� for such a little question lol

Many thanks for any response if you've not got bored by time you get to the Q!!

Just get a soft, lightweight rolling duffle. i would, if you have the space, put things like the your computer and regs in your hand luggage. put everything else in the duffle, including clothes. i wouldn't worry about the box. buy a mesh bag to bring your kit on the boat with you. folds up small in your regular luggage. some TSA locks and you're good to go.

purple vonny
27-07-2014, 06:51 PM
Hang on - you're going on honeymoon and you are going diving and leaving your wife sunbathing?

That aside, just get a very lightweight / none wheeled bag and everything will fit in at about 12 - 14 kg. I get all my holiday dive gear and clothes for one week in a lightweight bag, and I'm a girl!
If you can't manage with an extra 20kg for wedding stuff, you are taking way, way, too much stuff.

It will be hot, so you will only need a few shorts and t shits and a pair of flip flops.

Buy all liquid stuff at the airport after security and it does no t get weighed. That is: Suntan cream, booze, shower gel and travel wash.

When you have packed, take half your clothes out of the bag and that will be about right.

(30 - odd dive holidays experience and one dive honeymoon experience her)

You have already pulled so you don't need posh clothes.

Tel
27-07-2014, 07:28 PM
As others have said, ditch the box, get a soft bag and pad it out with clothes/towels etc.

Also if you don't use integrated it's a good idea to pack a basic weightbelt and a few retainers
and make up your own using there lead.
Last time I was over the belts were pretty tatty and not a lot of fun playing "you have my
weight belt" every morning amongst a pile of 20 all the same on the boat :)

Billy Fish
27-07-2014, 07:39 PM
Thanks for the speedy replies 😊


Hang on - you're going on honeymoon and you are going diving and leaving your wife sunbathing?

Well technically we get married the 2nd week and I'd be diving the 1st 😜

Billy Fish
27-07-2014, 07:43 PM
Just get a soft, lightweight rolling duffle. i would, if you have the space, put things like the your computer and regs in your hand luggage. put everything else in the duffle, including clothes. i wouldn't worry about the box. buy a mesh bag to bring your kit on the boat with you. folds up small in your regular luggage. some TSA locks and you're good to go.

I think your right with this one, I was dreading the box to be honest 👍

Billy Fish
27-07-2014, 07:45 PM
Also if you don't use integrated it's a good idea to pack a basic weightbelt and a few retainers
and make up your own using there lead.
Last time I was over the belts were pretty tatty and not a lot of fun playing "you have my
weight belt" every morning amongst a pile of 20 all the same on the boat :)

I have integrated pouches with lead shot and also a pocketed weight belt with more lead shot, so I could take them and use their lead blocks?!..... Quality Tel, top banana mate

CantNavigate
27-07-2014, 08:16 PM
Regulators, mask, computer, wet boots in hand luggage. Never had any problems at security, but a pro tip is to take your dive kit out of your handluggage and put it in a separate tray, it always takes less time than them going through your bag.

Use the lightest large kit bag you can find, wrap your bcd in wetsuit to protect it and fins at either side. I can always stay under 20 kg even for 2 weeks..

AxeMan
27-07-2014, 08:17 PM
Just get a soft, lightweight rolling duffle. i would, if you have the space, put things like the your computer and regs in your hand luggage. put everything else in the duffle, including clothes. i wouldn't worry about the box. buy a mesh bag to bring your kit on the boat with you. folds up small in your regular luggage. some TSA locks and you're good to go.
TSA locks? For Cuba?

Personally I'd take your kit in a rigid suitcase. Either get an ultralight one, or nick half your wife's luggage allowance, she might as well get used it as soon as possible.

gobfish1
27-07-2014, 08:29 PM
if your only doing a few dives , AND its your first sea dive id just use the shop kit , they wont have you down at 60m
dived out there my self , own kit with me , shop kit looked fine , and id have been happy to use it ,

ps

if you let us know where your going be staying , then someone my know the dive outfit close by and say what the shop kit / setup is like , we used two shops over the week and both were fine kit wise ,

rivers
27-07-2014, 08:32 PM
TSA locks? For Cuba?

Personally I'd take your kit in a rigid suitcase. Either get an ultralight one, or nick half your wife's luggage allowance, she might as well get used it as soon as possible.

Overlooked the Cuba bit. I've been drinking

Billy Fish
27-07-2014, 09:13 PM
We've got TSA locks for our cases and we've been to Cuba twice and they've not thrown our cases away before lol!

We are stopping in the resort of Guardalavaca on the east coast near Holguin. The dives would be arranged through our Thomas Cook rep Ozmel or Ozzy as he likes to be called!!

It's not a dive holiday and probably doesn't justify me taking my own gear but would like to see how my kit holds up that's all as it's all I've known. (Halfway through OW course I bought my own BCD)

Thanks for all your advice it's appreciated

AxeMan
27-07-2014, 09:23 PM
if your only doing a few dives , AND its your first sea dive id just use the shop kit , they wont have you down at 60m
dived out there my self , own kit with me , shop kit looked fine , and id have been happy to use it ,

The thing about Cuba is that it's very hard to import anything. So if you see their kit after they've just imported it, it'll be fine. 5 years later, they won't have replaced it, and it will be less good.

And whilst they may not take you to 60m, I've met people who were taken to 40m on a try dive there.

Billy Fish
27-07-2014, 09:31 PM
Thanks AXeMan, that kinda makes sense about their equipment. I just wanted to feel comfortable with what I was wearing without having to think about it if that makes sense?! Just for info, my BCD uses an airtrim valve

dwhitlow
27-07-2014, 09:44 PM
Hang on - you're going on honeymoon and you are going diving and leaving your wife sunbathing?

Hopefully not, as it is so useful having someone to help with fins and kit and so nice have personal attention to remove the post-dive snot from your face. What better way to strenghten a relationship :D

rivers
27-07-2014, 09:47 PM
We've got TSA locks for our cases and we've been to Cuba twice and they've not thrown our cases away before lol!

We are stopping in the resort of Guardalavaca on the east coast near Holguin. The dives would be arranged through our Thomas Cook rep Ozmel or Ozzy as he likes to be called!!

It's not a dive holiday and probably doesn't justify me taking my own gear but would like to see how my kit holds up that's all as it's all I've known. (Halfway through OW course I bought my own BCD)

Thanks for all your advice it's appreciated

I took all of my kit (including drysuit) for a single day of diving in Belize when I went to go visit my other half while she was away working (professional dancer on cruise ships). So, don't worry about taking your kit. you know how it works, the state it's in, etc.

Billy Fish
27-07-2014, 09:56 PM
Hopefully not, as it is so useful having someone to help with fins and kit and so nice have personal attention to remove the post-dive snot from your face. What better way to strenghten a relationship :D

Haha I have become accustomed to that kinda love when we've been to Stoney!!


I took all of my kit (including drysuit) for a single day of diving in Belize when I went to go visit my other half while she was away working (professional dancer on cruise ships). So, don't worry about taking your kit. you know how it works, the state it's in, etc.

That's what I kinda thought, I'm gunna be out of the norm for me and wanted to have something less to worry/concentrate on and let me snap away!

gobfish1
27-07-2014, 10:35 PM
The thing about Cuba is that it's very hard to import anything. So if you see their kit after they've just imported it, it'll be fine. 5 years later, they won't have replaced it, and it will be less good.

And whilst they may not take you to 60m, I've met people who were taken to 40m on a try dive there.

i found the dive guids to be v professional , hay i must have just been lucky ,

ps just cos stuff is used dont mean it,s shit , iv got regs that are 25 years old never seen a shop service , still work as they should ,

londonsean69
27-07-2014, 10:37 PM
As I am still relatively new to scuba and have never done a sea dive before and I would feel more comfortable with my own gear.



I'm gunna be out of the norm for me and wanted to have something less to worry/concentrate on and let me snap away!

Please make sure you are comfortable in the water, and that you have good control over your buoyancy before taking a camera in :)

dwhitlow
27-07-2014, 10:40 PM
Please make sure you are comfortable in the water, and that you have good control over your buoyancy before taking a camera in :)
sound advice although I found my buoyancy got better when I was carrying the camera and especially when running a video. Funny how things shift your focus* :)



* pun intended

Billy Fish
27-07-2014, 11:02 PM
Please make sure you are comfortable in the water, and that you have good control over your buoyancy before taking a camera in :)

Thanks for that, I'm planning on doing a couple of dives with my camera over here as I've not used it as of yet and in the bath doesn't count!

gaius
28-07-2014, 07:14 AM
if your only doing a few dives , AND its your first sea dive id just use the shop kit , they wont have you down at 60m
dived out there my self , own kit with me , shop kit looked fine , and id have been happy to use it ,

After our first dive in Cuba, my buddy said to the guide, my depth gauge doesn't work. He laughed and said, this is Cuba, nothing works. We all have dive computers so that particular failure was no big deal, but a lot of the kit was very worn, and we had to spend a bit of time combing through the dive centre to assemble sets that fully worked. It was fine in the end, but check more closely than you perhaps would in the UK or even Egypt.

Billy Fish
28-07-2014, 09:51 AM
After our first dive in Cuba, my buddy said to the guide, my depth gauge doesn't work. He laughed and said, this is Cuba, nothing works.

Thanks for this gaius, that does sound like the things said over there along with mañana mañana 😳but I guess when it comes to scuba kit in comparison to when's the next delivery of ice cream there should be a difference 😂

Tel
28-07-2014, 11:11 AM
i found the dive guids to be v professional , hay i must have just been lucky ,


Lol, you were lucky. One and only time i've ever attacked someone underwater,
was a guide in Cuba. If I had a knife that day, I would have stabbed him.

Billy Fish
28-07-2014, 11:20 AM
Lol, you were lucky. One and only time i've ever attacked someone underwater,
was a guide in Cuba. If I had a knife that day, I would have stabbed him.

😱WTF... Please elaborate Tel!! (Only if you can/want to that is)

Tel
28-07-2014, 12:14 PM
Old story, i'l tell it but remember this is very rare :)

Been diving all week with a pretty good outfit and reasonably happy, was on the
Russian Frigate out of Varadero in the morning and in the PM was just the 4 of us
on a "look it's a pretty fish" 20m dive. Me and buddy (both Instructors) with the other
two, brand spanking new Canadian (no Yanks in Cuba) PADI OW couple. Guide was
talking to his mate with a camera on the dive who would be with us making 6 in total.

So off we go and within a few minutes it's obvious that the pair were not really that
brilliant, so I signalled to buddy to go wide so couple were in the middle and we
were "escorting" them, either side with the guide + Mr Snappy up front.

It was also now apparent that Mr.Snappy isnt there just to take pics, but he's also
showing the guide how the camera works.

Twenty minutes in all has been going fine and we get to a rock outcrop that has a few
fish around and looks pretty photogenic. We stop, Snappy gives camera to guide,
we wait and then we still wait.

After at least 5 minutes of hanging around and with no rational cause other than
inexperience maybe, one of the pair starts to think she's not getting air and freaks out.
Buddy is unable to help, also freaks out and starts a rapid ascent. Luckily we were in
watch mode, so my buddy zips in and sorts out the girl, while I'm up grab the guy, both
are settled, calmed down and back in the zone again.

I turn around to see Matey and Snappy still taking pics oblivious that two clients
that needed watching, had come close to drowning/barotrama - real serious stuff here.

This is where it gets interesting :)

At this point I was shall we say a little miffed at the total lack of anything even remotely
associated with Duty of Care and after handing off my guy to buddy, went over to
demonstrate that I was a tad unhappy which basicly translated to me seeing if the camera
would like to get a very close "close-up" of a rock. Cue lots of arm waving and pusing (it's
quite hard to effectively punch someone underwater), the guide gets away and signaks to
snappy who is hiding, to go up. I go back to my buddy grab the guy and all 4 of us also go
up, to see the guide legging it back to the boat.

Once back on, the guide is nowhere to be seen (fairly large boat) and never saw him again
that holiday.

gobfish1
28-07-2014, 12:33 PM
Lol, you were lucky. One and only time i've ever attacked someone underwater,
was a guide in Cuba. If I had a knife that day, I would have stabbed him.

lol

iv had the same feeling in malta turkey redsea and meldives , to name just a few ,

ziggi
28-07-2014, 12:41 PM
i did a couple of dives in Guardalavaca last year, i don't think there are too many dive centers in the area and i can't remember the name of the place i used, but they were fine, decent guides, professional outfit and the BCD i hired was in good nick too although i used my own regs,1.5mm suit etc

If you are looking to save some weight (for some rum perhaps!)id have no hesitation about using one of their BCD's but i would take my own regs as i always do, that said i never heard a single complaint from those who did use the hire regs

OrangeHead
28-07-2014, 01:10 PM
Once back on, the guide is nowhere to be seen (fairly large boat) and never saw him again that holiday.

Perhaps his family never saw him again either :o

Did a couple of dives with the Barracuda dive centre (IIRC) in Varadero a few years ago. Apparently the weather wasn't suitable so they drove us right across Cuba to a shore diving location in the Bay of Pigs. It was a fascinating bus ride, which may have been undertaken only so that we could stop on the way back at a kind of roadhouse which had live music, decent food and apparently no other customers....

The BCDs and regs were all pretty new looking Scubapro gear, no complaints there at all. The tanks all had H valves, with one DIN and one A-Clamp fitting. As it was my first time diving in the Caribbean I had no expectations but I enjoyed it, despite having to stick with the group playing follow-the-leader. Fair enough I suppose, as there was a real mix of divers. I particularly remember two Canadian guys who had previously worked together as professional divers. They told the shop they'd last dived 6 months before, but confided that they hadn't actually dived at all for over 10 years! They got their act together eventually but you'd never have mistaken them for being dived up :)

Just like anywhere else I guess you need to look after Number One first :)

Billy Fish
28-07-2014, 01:25 PM
Wow!! All I can say is that the couple were very lucky you and your buddy were there! I will bear all this in mind when I'm over there. The missus is already a tad worried about me/it but I've told her I won't do anything stupid or dangerous and if I'm not comfortable with any if it I will make it known to my buddy and or guide know and stop/surface.

SPARKMEL
30-07-2014, 08:02 AM
Hi Billy, A bit of advise, please dive within YOUR LIMITS NOT THEIRS. Dont go more than 12 M. no reason to really you will see plenty at this depth. At pre dive plan tell the instructor your expectations and limits.
Have a safe and enjoyable dive.....

mark..

londonsean69
30-07-2014, 08:06 AM
Hi Billy, A bit of advise, please dive within YOUR LIMITS NOT THEIRS. Dont go more than 12 M. no reason to really you will see plenty at this depth. At pre dive plan tell the instructor your expectations and limits.
Have a safe and enjoyable dive.....

mark..

Why not? Is he restricted to 12m with a SCUBA diver cert?

Billy Fish
30-07-2014, 03:54 PM
Hi Billy, A bit of advise, please dive within YOUR LIMITS NOT THEIRS. Dont go more than 12 M. no reason to really you will see plenty at this depth. At pre dive plan tell the instructor your expectations and limits.
Have a safe and enjoyable dive.....

mark..

I've done my AOW and nitrox course, but I appreciate what your saying if there's nothing to see then there's no point goin deep!

MikeF
30-07-2014, 04:47 PM
you aint gonna see much in guardalavaca less than 12m deep. I dived there a few years ago and the shallowest dive I did was about 16-20m. deepest was about 45m ish. I seem to recall the top of the drop off being around 20m with the bottom of the wall at several hundred metres. most of the dives we did were along this wall and the guides were happy for experienced divers to wander deeper after the first dive. I found the guides much better than the average red sea numpty.

I think it was a lot cheaper per dive if you booked about 6 or 10 dives rather than booking single dives.

what hotel are you staying at? one of them was quite nice, the one we booked not so nice, so much so we booked into the nicer one after a couple of nights and the rep arranged for us to just pay the difference as they are all owned by the state.

oh and my reg got full of rust from the steel cylinders I used so use an ali 80 if you don't want rust in your reg

Billy Fish
30-07-2014, 04:54 PM
Cheers for that mike, we are stopping in the brisas. We've stopped there a couple of times before so we know what to expect. I was planning on doing 6 dives while there, think the wife to be would be the one getting NARKED not me if I did more than that lol!

I'll look out for the cylinders thanks for that!

MikeF
30-07-2014, 05:07 PM
that's the much nicer one we switched to.

Billy Fish
30-07-2014, 05:11 PM
Ah good, that's a relief, this is our third time there lol

greatwhite
30-07-2014, 07:48 PM
If it were me on my honeymoon, no gear needed as would be m--- diving in the bed only!!! hehe

Billy Fish
30-07-2014, 08:02 PM
If it were me on my honeymoon, no gear needed as would be m--- diving in the bed only!!! hehe

Haha quality reply😂

Technically the honeymoon will be next year as we get married late on in the 2nd week of the holiday👌

SPARKMEL
30-07-2014, 09:08 PM
Why not? Is he restricted to 12m with a SCUBA diver cert?

If you read the post Billy has never dived in the sea before ?? and states he is new to diving. Not sure what depth his qualification allows him to dive but just wanted Billy to be cautious. But its up to him.

londonsean69
30-07-2014, 09:10 PM
If you read the post Billy has never dived in the sea before ??

If you read some more posts he also mentions diving in Stoney, not everyone learns to dive in the sea ;)